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There is without question nasty behavior on the right as well, but it is not targeted by race and gender as is that of the left.:peace

That is ridiculous. Shall we take a look at how some conservatives address homosexuals? Want to know how some conservatives address blacks or Jews? Check out stormfront... unless you think that the people there are liberals.
 
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I'm glad you agree.

I don't, but I've also learned it's useless to argue with someone who is sticking their fingers in their ears and going "pfffft," so I'm not going to bother.
 
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That is ridiculous. Shall we take a look at how some conservatives address homosexuals? Want to know how some conservatives address blacks or Jews? Check out stormfront... unless you think that the people there are liberals.

And you think "stormfront" (whatever that is) is conservative? I said the nastiness of the right was not targeted by race or gender. You seem to be making my point. Thank you.
 
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The ones that are embarrassed by her and/or were pissed they had to vote with her on the ticket?

In fact, as is well known, she energized the party. That's when the personal attacks from the Progressives began.
 
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And you think "stormfront" (whatever that is) is conservative? I said the nastiness of the right was not targeted by race or gender. You seem to be making my point. Thank you.

Of course stormfront is conservative. And I said that the nastiness of the right IS targeted by race or gender, and you did nothing to dispute that. Thank you.
 
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I don't, but I've also learned it's useless to argue with someone who is sticking their fingers in their ears and going "pfffft," so I'm not going to bother.

As Edward G. Robinson said to Steve McQueen in the closing scene of The Cincinnati Kid: "You're not ready for me, kid."
 
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Of course stormfront is conservative. And I said that the nastiness of the right IS targeted by race or gender, and you did nothing to dispute that. Thank you.

Sorry, but white nationalist neo-Nazi outfits don't qualify. Try again. And until you can produce an example of right nastiness targeted by race or gender there's nothing to refute.:peace
 
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Sorry, but white nationalist neo-Nazi outfits don't qualify. Try again. And until you can produce an example of right nastiness targeted by race or gender their's nothing to refute.:peace

Sorry, but they do as they identify with conservatives. So until you can refute that, your point is rendered invalid.
 
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Of course stormfront is conservative. And I said that the nastiness of the right IS targeted by race or gender, and you did nothing to dispute that. Thank you.

Has stormfront said they were conservative, or is that just your opinion?

Do you have a link to these people?
 
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That is ridiculous. Shall we take a look at how some conservatives address homosexuals? Want to know how some conservatives address blacks or Jews? Check out stormfront... unless you think that the people there are liberals.

Even not including obvious fringe nutbars like Stormfront ...

Anyone remember U.S. Rep. Don Young's "wetback" comment?
U.S. Rep. Don Young in Hot Water for 'Wetback' Comment | Fox News Latino

Or this ass?

put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house.jpg


Or the constant references to "shuck and jive"?
GOP Official Says Obama 'Shucking And Jiving' On Health Care Law
Sarah Palin defends ?shuck and jive? - Kevin Cirilli - POLITICO.com (bonus points, this one's Palin)
Rush Limbaugh: President Obama?s ?shuck and jive? plan - Breanna Edwards - POLITICO.com

Glenn Beck calling Sen. Mary Landrieu a prostitute twice?
Glenn Beck calls Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu a prostitute twice - New Orleans Progressive | Examiner.com

The entirety of Rush Limbaugh's diatribe against Sandra Fluke?
Rush Limbaugh’s legacy on Sandra Fluke

And let's not get started on conservatives treatment of Muslims.

The idea that "the right" doesn't base attacks on race, gender, sexual orientation or religion is sheer nonsense.
 
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Has stormfront said they were conservative, or is that just your opinion?

Do you have a link to these people?

Trust me, you don't want one.
 
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Sorry, but they do as they identify with conservatives. So until you can refute that, your point is rendered invalid.

Since I'm not conservative myself I don't have any emotional involvement here, so if you're hoping for me to get angry I fear you'll be disappointed. No conservative leader would consider stormfront to be a conservative organization, regardless of their claims, and neither do I. If you're going to insist on such a ridiculous proposition then there's nothing more to discuss, and you will have de facto conceded the point. That's disappointing.:peace
 
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As Edward G. Robinson said to Steve McQueen in the closing scene of The Cincinnati Kid: "You're not ready for me, kid."

Pretty sure I just completely disproved your idiotic notions two posts ago.
 
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Has stormfront said they were conservative, or is that just your opinion?

You have "Independent" as your lean, yet we do not need to ask you if you are conservative. Your posting makes it obvious. If you read what they write, they support conservative positions. Makes them conservative.

Do you have a link to these people?

I refuse to link to the stormfront website.
 
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Even not including obvious fringe nutbars like Stormfront ...

Anyone remember U.S. Rep. Don Young's "wetback" comment?
U.S. Rep. Don Young in Hot Water for 'Wetback' Comment | Fox News Latino

Or this ass?

Or the constant references to "shuck and jive"?
GOP Official Says Obama 'Shucking And Jiving' On Health Care Law
Sarah Palin defends ?shuck and jive? - Kevin Cirilli - POLITICO.com (bonus points, this one's Palin)
Rush Limbaugh: President Obama?s ?shuck and jive? plan - Breanna Edwards - POLITICO.com

Glenn Beck calling Sen. Mary Landrieu a prostitute twice?
Glenn Beck calls Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu a prostitute twice - New Orleans Progressive | Examiner.com

The entirety of Rush Limbaugh's diatribe against Sandra Fluke?
Rush Limbaugh’s legacy on Sandra Fluke

And let's not get started on conservatives treatment of Muslims.

The idea that "the right" doesn't base attacks on race, gender, sexual orientation or religion is sheer nonsense.

Who said 'the right' doesn't base attacks on any of these issues. It is just not mainstream within the party as it is with the leftists. And the attacks on Sarah Palin went well beyond any example you provided here.

Muslims?
 
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Since I'm not conservative myself I don't have any emotional involvement here, so if you're hoping for me to get angry I fear you'll be disappointed. No conservative leader would consider stormfront to be a conservative organization, regardless of their claims, and neither do I. If you're going to insist on such a ridiculous proposition then there's nothing more to discuss, and you will have de facto conceded the point. That's disappointing.:peace

I'm not trying to get you angry nor do I care if you are conservative. You posted something erroneous. You offered no substantiation for it, just your own opinion which, when it comes to proving a position, is irrelevant. Pointing out stormfront is an extreme example, but it fits within conservatism and demonstrates that your point is invalid. Now, it seems like you don't like that, but that is also irrelevant. So, now that your position has been rendered foolish by Kobie's information, and what I have demonstrated, do you have any actual evidence that you'd like to present, or are you done here?
 
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Who said 'the right' doesn't base attacks on any of these issues. It is just not mainstream within the party as it is with the leftists. And the attacks on Sarah Palin went well beyond any example you provided here.

Muslims?

Prove it's mainstream. And remember, proof does not include "because I think so".
 
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You have "Independent" as your lean, yet we do not need to ask you if you are conservative. Your posting makes it obvious. If you read what they write, they support conservative positions. Makes them conservative.



I refuse to link to the stormfront website.

So you say they are conservative but have no idea what they are about.

Nor do I, which makes your assertion rather weak and useless.
 
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Since I'm not conservative myself I don't have any emotional involvement here, so if you're hoping for me to get angry I fear you'll be disappointed. No conservative leader would consider stormfront to be a conservative organization, regardless of their claims, and neither do I. If you're going to insist on such a ridiculous proposition then there's nothing more to discuss, and you will have de facto conceded the point. That's disappointing.:peace
What positions do you support or don't support disqualify you as not being conservative?
 
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Even not including obvious fringe nutbars like Stormfront ...

Anyone remember U.S. Rep. Don Young's "wetback" comment?
U.S. Rep. Don Young in Hot Water for 'Wetback' Comment | Fox News Latino

Or this ass?

put-the-white-back-in-the-white-house.jpg


Or the constant references to "shuck and jive"?
GOP Official Says Obama 'Shucking And Jiving' On Health Care Law
Sarah Palin defends ?shuck and jive? - Kevin Cirilli - POLITICO.com (bonus points, this one's Palin)
Rush Limbaugh: President Obama?s ?shuck and jive? plan - Breanna Edwards - POLITICO.com

Glenn Beck calling Sen. Mary Landrieu a prostitute twice?
Glenn Beck calls Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu a prostitute twice - New Orleans Progressive | Examiner.com

The entirety of Rush Limbaugh's diatribe against Sandra Fluke?
Rush Limbaugh’s legacy on Sandra Fluke

And let's not get started on conservatives treatment of Muslims.

The idea that "the right" doesn't base attacks on race, gender, sexual orientation or religion is sheer nonsense.

Young was slapped down by Boehner. "Shuck and jive" has been used by a number of commentators across the political spectrum. Neither Limbaugh nor Beck could be called a representative of conservative thought. And the photo was photoshopped. What else you got?:peace
 
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Prove it's mainstream. And remember, proof does not include "because I think so".

Prove that the abuse of Sarah Palin is mainstream?

You are not familiar with any abuse of Sarah Palin and her family? I find that rather difficult to believe.
 
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Stormfront's agenda is completely consistent with a part of the bagger's agenda. That's not debatable in the least but it is debatable on how much of the bagger party members are racists and haters.

If one looks at their representation on the street then one can come to a conclusion on how ingrained it is with them. It's as easy as looking at one of their demonstrations and the signs they carry.

I would sincerely suggest that the biggest element portrayed at any one time is racism and hate, certainly not a desire for bringing back their supplyside agenda. Most baggers don't even understand what it means and if they did they would be running from it.
 
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