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Grant said:
Are they? Perhaps you have some material to support this claim? Does that material of yours also provide what percentages of private property the government should take from any individual?
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Congress decides the tax rate.

Grant said:
Exactly, which is why the government should not be many trillions of dollars in debt. They have exhausted their resources yet continue to demand and spend more and you appear to support this.
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You don't know what "zero sum game" is do you?
 
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Thorgasm said:
Taxes are part of the social contract.

Resources are finite.
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Our economy isn't finite, it isn't a zero sum game, never has been in spite of what you and others want the people to believe. Where in the Constitution does it say Provide for Domestic Welfare? That is a state and local responsibility not a federal one.
 
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Thorgasm said:
Iraq wasn't "Defense". It was "Offense".
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The best defense sometimes is a good offense. A good offense keeps the defense off the field. 9/11 cost the economy over a trillion dollars and that was because of so called defense. Your continued posts on Iraq and the past serve no purpose. You cannot change the past, only change the future and what you are doing is adding nothing but more debt by ignoring personal responsibility on social issues.
 
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Thorgasm said:
Congress decides the tax rate.



You don't know what "zero sum game" is do you?
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Do you? can you explain how a zero sum game exists in an economy that was 9.9 trillion in 2000 and 14.4 trillion in 2008? Do you realize that a growing economy is what creates jobs and liberalism benefits when fewer jobs are created and thus more dependence?
 
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Conservative said:
Our economy isn't finite, it isn't a zero sum game, never has been in spite of what you and others want the people to believe. Where in the Constitution does it say Provide for Domestic Welfare? That is a state and local responsibility not a federal one.
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So you believe that money grows on trees?

"Promote the General Welfare".
 
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Conservative said:
The best defense sometimes is a good offense. A good offense keeps the defense off the field. 9/11 cost the economy over a trillion dollars and that was because of so called defense. Your continued posts on Iraq and the past serve no purpose. You cannot change the past, only change the future and what you are doing is adding nothing but more debt by ignoring personal responsibility on social issues.
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Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Iraq wasn't going to attack us.
 
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Conservative said:
Do you? can you explain how a zero sum game exists in an economy that was 9.9 trillion in 2000 and 14.4 trillion in 2008? Do you realize that a growing economy is what creates jobs and liberalism benefits when fewer jobs are created and thus more dependence?
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Yes, I get a kickback every time someone signs up for welfare. :lol:

The govt. prints money every year. That's why the numbers increase. Money doesn't grow on trees, though.
 
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Thorgasm said:
So you believe that money grows on trees?

"Promote the General Welfare".
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No it grows from new products, new services, and new businesses along with population growth.

Promote doesn't mean provide
 
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Thorgasm said:
There was a time when Congress declared war.
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There still is.
Did you really just point to the three Democrat Wars that used the "Red Scare" to justify those wars and then attack them for being sympathetic to Communism?:rofl
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The "Red Scare" was entirely legitimate if you are at all familiar with Communist regimes, those who were forced to live under them or the tens of millions who died under Communism.

Being a leftist doesn't mean that you should ignore history altogether, or is that a prerequisite to being a leftist?.
 
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Thorgasm said:
Yes, I get a kickback every time someone signs up for welfare. :lol:

The govt. prints money every year. That's why the numbers increase. Money doesn't grow on trees, though.
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Yes, the govt. is propping up the economy to mask the failed Obama economic plan. That money is keeping interest rates low which masks the debt service on the 17 trillion dollar debt.
 
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Thorgasm said:
Money doesn't grow on trees, though.
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That might be the first economic insight I've ever heard from a leftist.

Of course you screwed it all up in the same post.
 
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Thorgasm said:
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Iraq wasn't going to attack us.
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The Iraq War ended with the Status of Forces agreement in 2008 before Obama took office. there are very few costs of the Iraq War in the 6.4 trillion dollar Obama debt. You need to get over it. how did the Iraq War affect you? I had three family members serve, did you?
 
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Grant said:
There still is.
The "Red Scare" was entirely legitimate if you are at all familiar with Communist regimes, those who were forced to live under them or the tens of millions who died under Communism.

Being a leftist doesn't mean that you should ignore history altogether, or is that a prerequisite to being a leftist?.
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Yes, I am a retarded leftist. I am so stupid that I have to wear velcro shoes.
 
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Conservative said:
The Iraq War ended with the Status of Forces agreement in 2008 before Obama took office. there are very few costs of the Iraq War in the 6.4 trillion dollar Obama debt. You need to get over it. how did the Iraq War affect you? I had three family members serve, did you?
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So the Iraq war paid for itself?
 
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Thorgasm said:
So the Iraq war paid for itself?
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What does the Iraq War have to do with the Obama debt and the 3.77 trillion dollar budget that he proposed?
 
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Conservative said:
What does the Iraq War have to do with the Obama debt and the 3.77 trillion dollar budget that he proposed?
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Remember the mess he inherited?
 
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Thorgasm said:
Remember the mess he inherited?
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You mean the mess that Second Term BHO inherited from First Term BHO? Every POTUS inherits a situation from his predecessor and returns the favor to his successor. We have one POTUS at a time and each assumes full responsibility as he takes the oath.:peace
 
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Thorgasm said:
Remember the mess he inherited?
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How long are you going to excuse the poor performance and blame it on Bush? He inherited a mess he helped create and hasn't made it any better. Instead of losing 700,000 jobs a month we had over a million drop out of the labor force and unemployment still hasn't returned to pre recession levels. Instead of robust economic growth we are at 2%. Instead of focusing on jobs we have Obamacare and a high unemployment/under employment/discouraged worker number. Instead of making people self sufficient we have greater dependence. Let me know what Obama has done better than Bush other than campaign and lie
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

Kobie said:
Yes, they originate there, and then they're sent back once the adults give them the spanking they deserve.
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The "spanking"? What are you talking about....? The only thing your highly immature take on this shows, is that it is indeed intransigent progressive demo's that were actually behind the past two plus weeks.

Regular order is what is supposed to happen. When the bill originates in the house, then the Senate is supposed to vote on, or add to, or craft their own bill and send it back to the House, then if they still can't agree, it goes to a conference committee....demo's wouldn't do that, all they were saying is "my way, or no way".... So, it was Obama, and Reid that caused this.
 
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j-mac said:
The "spanking"? What are you talking about....? The only thing your highly immature take on this shows, is that it is indeed intransigent progressive demo's that were actually behind the past two plus weeks.

Regular order is what is supposed to happen. When the bill originates in the house, then the Senate is supposed to vote on, or add to, or craft their own bill and send it back to the House, then if they still can't agree, it goes to a conference committee....demo's wouldn't do that, all they were saying is "my way, or no way".... So, it was Obama, and Reid that caused this.
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Boehner reneged on his deal with Reid. The fault is his.
 
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Thorgasm said:
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Iraq wasn't going to attack us.
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LOL. That is either a flat out lie or you are very uninformed. They had been "attacking" our military since the end of the ceasefire. Clinton didn't care because he "loathed" our military.
 
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ItAin'tFree said:
LOL. That is either a flat out lie or you are very uninformed. They had been "attacking" our military since the end of the ceasefire. Clinton didn't care because he "loathed" our military.
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Thanks for the laugh.
 
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Jack Hays said:
The misogyny of the left is relentless.:peace
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That word doesn't mean what you think it means.

Unless you think every person who criticizes Obama is automatically racist. I sure don't think that, but you seem to.
 
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j-mac said:
The "spanking"? What are you talking about....? The only thing your highly immature take on this shows, is that it is indeed intransigent progressive demo's that were actually behind the past two plus weeks.

Regular order is what is supposed to happen. When the bill originates in the house, then the Senate is supposed to vote on, or add to, or craft their own bill and send it back to the House, then if they still can't agree, it goes to a conference committee....demo's wouldn't do that, all they were saying is "my way, or no way".... So, it was Obama, and Reid that caused this.
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Exactly correct, but with a liberal compromise and negotiation means giving them everything they want. I think Putin actually got it right regarding Obama and of course you could substitute Liberal for Obama

Russian President Putin said off the record:

"Negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pigeon.
The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, ****s on the board and
then struts around like it won the game."
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Thorgasm said:
Boehner reneged on his deal with Reid. The fault is his.
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Let me ask you something, why is placing blame so important to you and other liberals here, yes your leaning doesn't fool me? All this does is divert from the Obama failures and the disaster that liberalism is. Do you realize that we have a 17 trillion dollar debt that exceeds our yearly GDP. Please point out another time in history when that occurred? Why doesn't that bother you more than extending the debt ceiling so we can grow the debt more? When does debt become a concern to a liberal if ever?
 
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