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Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial[W:793:1010:1190]

Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

You can't get a tour at 0230 but there is someone on duty all the same. I'm not defending "the situation." I'm only pointing out that Park Service staffing is much denser than may be apparent.

Even if Park services are around then as they are right now...why the barricades? I kept referring to the tour guides because it is those and the store sales people who are not working the monuments. Well, those people arent there at 2:30 am either...why the barricades?

Tour guides and store sales people arent in the homes and private businesses. Why evict them and order the closing of privately owned and operated businesses?

To make it as uncomfortable as possible and to have the media tout how horrific this shut down is.
I can see the bubble headed blonde with big hooters reporting now....Why it is so bad they are closing down statues, those damn Republicans and their shutdown stopping little Mary from her class trip.
 
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And to think that they are going to increase the ceiling again is rather disappointing. Almost you might think it criminal.

Why? The government is not a household and should not be managed as such.
 
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Does it really matter why? Isn't it time for Congress and the President to adhere to the commitments they made, commitments made in the 2011. The debt ceiling was raised from 14.7 to 16.7 trillion with the agreement that the Congress and President would address the spending issue. Obama showed how much he cared about spending when he submitted a 3.77 trillion dollar budget.

Debt is also much less of a problem when you are generating strong positive numbers which Obama isn't doing. Debt to GDP today is over 100% and never before in modern history has that been an issue. Something to think about.

Of course it's time for them to adhere to their commitments. Raising the ceiling gives the Treasury the authority to generate money in the short term to pay for commitments they made, like contracts, salaries of government employees, etc. Consider the damage that will be done to the economy when private businesses with government contracts don't get the money that they budgeted for.

The long term deficits don't seem to be a problem either party is willing to fix. They both talk a good game when they're in the opposition, but as soon as that changes they spend like sailors on shore leave.
 
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Please tell me how defunding something with a 38% support or pulling exemptions is a poison pill? Again, don't really care about the govt. shutdown or who is to blame. I care about a bad piece of legislation and a 17 trillion dollar debt. Why don't you?

It's a poison pill because they knew damn well it wouldn't pass. I care about them passing a bill that might go somewhere instead of political grandstanding.
 
Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

Sarah Palin is a great success story but the left only likes Black or female politicians if they are Democrat. If a candidate is neither than there sexist/racist roots quickly become apparent.


Wait, you mean Democrats agree with other Democrats? Wow....

The right only likes black or female, or basically any politician, if they're a Republican. When's the last time you heard a Con say anything nice about Nancy Pelosi? Does that mean they're sexist too, or is that partisan?
 
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Oh. There is no question that 100% of GDP is too high. Nothing to think about there.

But why does the President not make proposals to cut it down to size? That would be the job of the Executive one could think. If he does not do it, then Congress must.

And to think that they are going to increase the ceiling again is rather disappointing. Almost you might think it criminal.

Obama is getting what he wants, that European Socialist model with a dependent society managed by liberals. There is an old adage that you never bite the hand that feeds you and that would be liberalism if Obama has his way. We are close now.
 
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Wait, you mean Democrats agree with other Democrats? Wow....

The right only likes black or female, or basically any politician, if they're a Republican. When's the last time you heard a Con say anything nice about Nancy Pelosi? Does that mean they're sexist too, or is that partisan?

What is there nice to say about Nancy Pelosi, she holds her Botox well? It certainly isn't her economic stance
 
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What is there nice to say about Nancy Pelosi, she holds her Botox well? It certainly isn't her economic stance

That's fine, my point is that Democrats don't hate Palin because they're sexist anymore than Republicans hate Pelosi because they're sexist.

It's just the reverse of the "Criticize Obama = racist" crap.
 
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That's fine, my point is that Democrats don't hate Palin because they're sexist anymore than Republicans hate Pelosi because they're sexist.

It's just the reverse of the "Criticize Obama = racist" crap.

You tell me then why the "hatred" for Palin? She had a resume that Obama didn't have. She actually ran something that Obama has never run. Racism never entered my mind when it came to Obama but that is the business person in me as I look at the resume and results. When you do that there is no justification of picking Obama over Palin even though they weren't running against each other.

I have no problem with a Cruz/Palin Ticket, why do you especially after almost five years of Obama/Biden?
 
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You tell me then why the "hatred" for Palin? She had a resume that Obama didn't have. She actually ran something that Obama has never run. Racism never entered my mind when it came to Obama but that is the business person in me as I look at the resume and results. When you do that there is no justification of picking Obama over Palin even though they weren't running against each other.

I have no problem with a Cruz/Palin Ticket, why do you especially after almost five years of Obama/Biden?

If I have to tell you that Democrats usually don't vote for Republicans, you are beyond my help.
 
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If I have to tell you that Democrats usually don't vote for Republicans, you are beyond my help.

I grew up a Democrat just like many others I knew but the Democrat Party left us. You see results matter and eventually most educated people understand that spending in the name of compassion that really doesn't generate compassionate results meaning solving a problem just creates more dependence. Sorry, but I provide more compassion with my money than the Federal Govt ever will because I don't give it to a bureaucrat for Administrative costs
 
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I grew up a Democrat just like many others I knew but the Democrat Party left us. You see results matter and eventually most educated people understand that spending in the name of compassion that really doesn't generate compassionate results meaning solving a problem just creates more dependence. Sorry, but I provide more compassion with my money than the Federal Govt ever will because I don't give it to a bureaucrat for Administrative costs

Which has nothing to do with why Democrats don't vote for Republicans. You see, when you disagree with a candidate, you tend not to vote for them.
 
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Which has nothing to do with why Democrats don't vote for Republicans. You see, when you disagree with a candidate, you tend not to vote for them.

I was a Democrat that voted for Republicans and am a Conservative that will vote for a Democrat. Resume and record mean everything.
 
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But would yo agree it should be managed? Perhaps with a budget?

Our problem is that we have too many people who don't understand that our economy isn't strong enough due to poor leadership to sustain a 17 trillion dollar and growing debt.
 
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But would yo agree it should be managed? Perhaps with a budget?

I would also agree that the budgeting process need not be interrupted in a last ditch effort to "get your way".
 
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But would yo agree it should be managed? Perhaps with a budget?

Management isn't a concept that Obama understands nor tries to understand. A lot of focus is on spending as it should be but too little focus is being generated towards the millions and millions of unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers who aren't paying much if any in FIT. Obama proposed a 3.77 trillion dollar budget showing he has little concern for spending cuts and has done nothing about the unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers believing apparently that he can extract enough out of those evil rich people to fund the liberal spending appetite, yet another mistake by Obama.
 
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Wait, you mean Democrats agree with other Democrats? Wow....

The right only likes black or female, or basically any politician, if they're a Republican. When's the last time you heard a Con say anything nice about Nancy Pelosi? Does that mean they're sexist too, or is that partisan?

No one has been as unfairly attacked as much as Sarah Palin, with only Michelle Bachmann coming close. Their actual policies are very seldom discussed, they are only attacked as human beings.

Nancy Pelosi has been attacked more for her policies and politics than who she is as a human being.

But this has what the left has made America. If there is any Republican who might be a candidate for the Presidency they are immediately set upon by the low info leftists who savage these people personally, say they are 'afraid', but are never intelligent or well informed enough to ever discuss actual policies. This deliberate dumbing down of the American voter is costing the country dearly.
 
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Management isn't a concept that Obama understands nor tries to understand. A lot of focus is on spending as it should be but too little focus is being generated towards the millions and millions of unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers who aren't paying much if any in FIT. Obama proposed a 3.77 trillion dollar budget showing he has little concern for spending cuts and has done nothing about the unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers believing apparently that he can extract enough out of those evil rich people to fund the liberal spending appetite, yet another mistake by Obama.

He proposed billions in stimulus and shovel ready jobs and nothing happened. He sad sequestration would collapse the country, that people would be thrown in the streets, and nothing happened. Instead the debt grows, the country gets ever more more discouraged and the stupids want more of the same.
 
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No one has been as unfairly attacked as much as Sarah Palin, with only Michelle Bachmann coming close. Their actual policies are very seldom discussed, they are only attacked as human beings.

Nancy Pelosi has been attacked more for her policies and politics than who she is as a human being.

But this has what the left has made America. If there is any Republican who might be a candidate for the Presidency they are immediately set upon by the low info leftists who savage these people personally, say they are 'afraid', but are never intelligent or well informed enough to ever discuss actual policies. This deliberate dumbing down of the American voter is costing the country dearly.

Yeah, Palin didn't dumb down our political discourse or anything. I mean she reads all the papers and her knowledge of the Bush doctrine is incredibly scholarly.

If conservatives try real hard to pretend that Palin has an IQ over 80, maybe people with 80 IQs will believe them.
 
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I would also agree that the budgeting process need not be interrupted in a last ditch effort to "get your way".

What 'budgeting process'? When was the last time a budget was passed?
 
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Sarah is just a publicity hog trying to keep her name in the news any way she can. She quit her job as Gov, so would that not be a case of a Cn'C abandoning "her troops"?

No.

I believe Ms. Palin resigned the governorship to save the Alaskan taxpayers millions of dollars of fighting bogus leftist lawsuits being filed against the governor.

What if Obama resigned because he was costing the American taxpayers a trillion dollars a year ?
 
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Even if Park services are around then as they are right now...why the barricades? I kept referring to the tour guides because it is those and the store sales people who are not working the monuments. Well, those people arent there at 2:30 am either...why the barricades?

Tour guides and store sales people arent in the homes and private businesses. Why evict them and order the closing of privately owned and operated businesses?

To make it as uncomfortable as possible and to have the media tout how horrific this shut down is.
I can see the bubble headed blonde with big hooters reporting now....Why it is so bad they are closing down statues, those damn Republicans and their shutdown stopping little Mary from her class trip.

I can't answer any of those questions and it was never my intention to debate them.
 
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What 'budgeting process'? When was the last time a budget was passed?

So instead of replying to my comment, you want to double down by asking me a loaded question.

Allow me to alter the terminology; fiscal appropriations process.
 
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No.

I believe Ms. Palin resigned the governorship to save the Alaskan taxpayers millions of dollars of fighting bogus leftist lawsuits being filed against the governor.

What if Obama resigned because he was costing the American taxpayers a trillion dollars a year ?
Hmmmm. Sounds more like an outgrowth of Troopergate.
Palin ‘Troopergate’ - ProPublica
 
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