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Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial[W:793:1010:1190]

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Jack Hays said:
You are correct and I was wrong. My apologies.
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In the words of John Boehner, are you trying "to score some points" on the GOP leadership "not wanting shutdown" argument?
 
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Blame who you chose but no rational thinking citizen cannot help but be outraged at the deliberate act of ignoring the welfare of all American people by the scum that votes themselves raises, collects pensions after only two years of service, avoids military service because they are cowards only to send our sons and daughters to their deaths in wars politicians start, pass bills without reading them and ride to work in limousines two blocks from their homes. I grow to hate these buckets of skunk puss more and more every day.
 
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Utility Man said:
For thier next performance, maybe they will cut funding for the meals on wheels program in the morning, then in the afternoon they could go hand out food to the poor.
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The government already does that. Wait a minute. Are you saying food stamps is just another failed government program? If so good job.
 
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Jack Hays said:
Sorry, but I don't understand the question.
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Hint: Search for "Boehner "score some points""

It is pertinent to the argument that the GOP leadership did "not" want the shutdown.......or have you forgotten what you were supposedly apologizing for?
 
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Kobie said:
Yes, they originate there, and then they're sent back once the adults give them the spanking they deserve.
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To bad that's not true. We wouldn't be stuck with Obamadon'tcare.
 
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Kobie said:
Remember when Obama sent in the tanks, declared martial law, and mobilized 300,000 troops on the nation's capital, like China did then?

ME EITHER
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yea, there are differences, but my analogy is still on point...they BOTH still deployed riot police to disperse citizens protesting what government was doing. What they did after is very different. The point, in case you didnt get it, was who the heck made the decision in government to send out riot police to stop a bunch of 80 & 90 year old WWII vets? This is how Communist China would and did react and our government just did the same damn thing to us.
 
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Jack Hays said:
There are always park personnel on duty. I live near DC and know some of them.
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You can not go to the Vietnam memorial at 2:30 AM and get a tour by a tour guide but you can always go to the Vietnam memorial at 2:30 am.

ok, so they dont have a tour guide there during normal hours, big deal. Why the barricades?

And where is the guide at on the road miles away from Mt. Rushmore where they blocked the overlook?

Stop trying to defend this situation. There is no defending the indefensible.
 
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Conservative said:
I know this is really a problem for many here but we have a 17 trillion dollar debt, the debt ceiling was increased from 14.7 to 16.7 trillion in 2011. If Obama and the Senate had done their job we wouldn't be dealing with 2011 all over again.
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So why has it had to be raised periodically ever since anyone can remember? It was raised 4 times under Bush I (in 4 years), and 17 times in Reagan's 8 years. During Bush II it went up 4 times while Republicans controlled Congress (and 2 more times with Democratic control). So was Congress not doing its job those times either?
 
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Did you know that the bill without the poison pill came up for a vote, but was personally filibustered by Ted Cruz? Eventually it was passed and sent back, where the House didn't pass it.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Hint: Search for "Boehner "score some points""

It is pertinent to the argument that the GOP leadership did "not" want the shutdown.......or have you forgotten what you were supposedly apologizing for?
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I apologized for misstating your thread history. On the substance of the thread I have nothing to apologize for.
 
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Imnukingfutz said:
You can not go to the Vietnam memorial at 2:30 AM and get a tour by a tour guide but you can always go to the Vietnam memorial at 2:30 am.

ok, so they dont have a tour guide there during normal hours, big deal. Why the barricades?

And where is the guide at on the road miles away from Mt. Rushmore where they blocked the overlook?

Stop trying to defend this situation. There is no defending the indefensible.
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You can't get a tour at 0230 but there is someone on duty all the same. I'm not defending "the situation." I'm only pointing out that Park Service staffing is much denser than may be apparent.
 
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Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

Imnukingfutz said:
You can not go to the Vietnam memorial at 2:30 AM and get a tour by a tour guide but you can always go to the Vietnam memorial at 2:30 am.

ok, so they dont have a tour guide there during normal hours, big deal. Why the barricades?

And where is the guide at on the road miles away from Mt. Rushmore where they blocked the overlook?

Stop trying to defend this situation. There is no defending the indefensible.
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:agree: Good questions that have not been answered by those that made this very bad decision!

Good morning to you! :2wave:
 
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rocket88 said:
So why has it had to be raised periodically ever since anyone can remember? It was raised 4 times under Bush I (in 4 years), and 17 times in Reagan's 8 years. During Bush II it went up 4 times while Republicans controlled Congress (and 2 more times with Democratic control). So was Congress not doing its job those times either?
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Does it really matter why? Isn't it time for Congress and the President to adhere to the commitments they made, commitments made in the 2011. The debt ceiling was raised from 14.7 to 16.7 trillion with the agreement that the Congress and President would address the spending issue. Obama showed how much he cared about spending when he submitted a 3.77 trillion dollar budget.

Debt is also much less of a problem when you are generating strong positive numbers which Obama isn't doing. Debt to GDP today is over 100% and never before in modern history has that been an issue. Something to think about.
 
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rocket88 said:
Did you know that the bill without the poison pill came up for a vote, but was personally filibustered by Ted Cruz? Eventually it was passed and sent back, where the House didn't pass it.
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Please tell me how defunding something with a 38% support or pulling exemptions is a poison pill? Again, don't really care about the govt. shutdown or who is to blame. I care about a bad piece of legislation and a 17 trillion dollar debt. Why don't you?
 
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Conservative said:
Debt to GDP today is over 100% and never before in modern history has that been an issue. Something to think about.
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Modern history? Excluding the current, a 100% debt to GDP ratio has only occurred once.

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Jack Hays said:
I apologized for misstating your thread history. On the substance of the thread I have nothing to apologize for.
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I take it then that you did not look up the "score some points" comment.

So be it.
 
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Conservative said:
Does it really matter why? Isn't it time for Congress and the President to adhere to the commitments they made, commitments made in the 2011. The debt ceiling was raised from 14.7 to 16.7 trillion with the agreement that the Congress and President would address the spending issue. Obama showed how much he cared about spending when he submitted a 3.77 trillion dollar budget.

Debt is also much less of a problem when you are generating strong positive numbers which Obama isn't doing. Debt to GDP today is over 100% and never before in modern history has that been an issue. Something to think about.
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Oh. There is no question that 100% of GDP is too high. Nothing to think about there.

But why does the President not make proposals to cut it down to size? That would be the job of the Executive one could think. If he does not do it, then Congress must.

And to think that they are going to increase the ceiling again is rather disappointing. Almost you might think it criminal.
 
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Kobie said:
She was doing the Alaskan taxpayers a favor by quitting as governor and becoming a bobblehead on Fox News. Or something.
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Or something?

You really haven't got a clue.
 
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Kobie said:
Um, no.

1. The GOP cannot attempt to fund the government based on things they like.
2. The GOP thinks it can use poison pills to circumvent passed, signed and vetted law.

That is not how this works. The Democrats are not refusing to negotiate; however, they are refusing to yield to nihilists.

You can't say the Democrats are refusing to negotiate when the Republicans are offering NOTHING outside of allowing the government to actually function in return for delaying or defunding the ACA. Capitulation, which is what the GOP was demanding, is not negotiation.
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Obama has said more than once that he refuses to negotiate. You seem to be guessing at current events.
 
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Kobie said:
Apparently your sarcasm meter is broken.

She's a lazy grifter.
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LOL! You're rapidly becoming the symbol of the low information voter. Palin had an 80% approval rating in Alaska and Barry has a current 37% approval rating. Is accuracy or perspective simply not important to leftists?
 
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Deuce said:
Yes, there's a lot of money to be made spouting meaningless catchphrases at people.

Although if she's gotten desperate enough to stand for photo ops in front of an Oath Keepers flag, that success is probably waning.
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Sarah Palin is a great success story but the left only likes Black or female politicians if they are Democrat. If a candidate is neither than there sexist/racist roots quickly become apparent.
 
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