• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial[W:793:1010:1190]

Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

And Palin could have a photo op of handing a can of soup to a hungry person that someone gave to her to give to him.

Sorta lie moochies garden.
 
Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

A very serious question would be WHY is Hillary a serious candidate.
Because the media says she is. You know how it works man.
 
Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

Give it up dude. If there were anything there...it would have surfaced months ago. Do you really think that is what you can bank your hopes on.
I'm simply saying that it will be brought up again and Hillary won't be able to run from answering it. Especially when it's a one on one debate where her opponent has had the opportunity to study the incident and counter her "What does it really matter?!" crap she threw at the Congress. People don't watch CSPAN Congressional sessions. They watch those debates. And the people watching those debates will be able to see if she is truthful, dodging, etc. As far as banking my hopes, I think the Dems are in a much worse position than the GOP. The GOP can put forth at least 2 exciting candidates that will bring refreshing views to the table. Who do the Dems have? Hillary? She's a retread and most are tired of seeing her. Biden? LOL! Booker isn't running. Who else is there?
 
Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

I'm simply saying that it will be brought up again and Hillary won't be able to run from answering it. Especially when it's a one on one debate where her opponent has had the opportunity to study the incident and counter her "What does it really matter?!" crap she threw at the Congress. People don't watch CSPAN Congressional sessions. They watch those debates. And the people watching those debates will be able to see if she is truthful, dodging, etc. As far as banking my hopes, I think the Dems are in a much worse position than the GOP. The GOP can put forth at least 2 exciting candidates that will bring refreshing views to the table. Who do the Dems have? Hillary? She's a retread and most are tired of seeing her. Biden? LOL! Booker isn't running. Who else is there?

You're right. People don't watch CSPAN. Clearly you did not.
 
Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

You're right. People don't watch CSPAN. Clearly you did not.
And yet, I quoted what she said during her session in front of the Senate.....not verbatim mind you, but paraphrasing. If you trust what she says, so be it. I don't.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

Forget the politicians involved, this is political gain for them - the point of this posting is to commend the Veterans who are not sitting back and just taking it. They are standing up to the government because of how badly it is behaving.

This is NOT the country these men fought for, that country would never barricade statues, close down roads and evict people from private property because they were having a hissy fit. The country they fought for would not try to make anything as painful as they can on the American people just because they want to make a point - the point of you need government and without government you will suffer.

How does that very government reply to the protests...my sending out police in riot gear to quell the protests.
‘We Are Marching to the White House’: ‘Million Vet March’ Descends on Washington, Barricades Torn Down | Video | TheBlaze.com

Didnt we see the same response from a government 20 or so years ago against protesters who were tired of its governments abuse of power... Tienanmen Square?

Did you even see it? Why don't you call them WW2 vets because that is what they were.
 
Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

I'm simply saying that it will be brought up again and Hillary won't be able to run from answering it. Especially when it's a one on one debate where her opponent has had the opportunity to study the incident and counter her "What does it really matter?!" crap she threw at the Congress. People don't watch CSPAN Congressional sessions. They watch those debates. And the people watching those debates will be able to see if she is truthful, dodging, etc. As far as banking my hopes, I think the Dems are in a much worse position than the GOP. The GOP can put forth at least 2 exciting candidates that will bring refreshing views to the table. Who do the Dems have? Hillary? She's a retread and most are tired of seeing her. Biden? LOL! Booker isn't running. Who else is there?

We must never forget what Hillary said. She must never become our president.
 
Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

We must never forget what Hillary said. She must never become our president.
You and I don't agree very often NP. But I totally agree with you on this.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

The GOP has a lot of blame to go around for the mess we are in but not for the Govt. shutdown. Most people here don't have a clue how our govt. really works never taking a civics class. The GOP Did their job and the Senate refused to negotiate thus shutting down the govt.

So this Ted Cruz that's protesting now....is he a the Ted Cruz that filibustered the bill in the Senate, or is that a different guy?
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

Did you even see it? Why don't you call them WW2 vets because that is what they were.

Ted Cruz is a WWII vet? He looks good for being in his 90s.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

The GOP has a lot of blame to go around for the mess we are in but not for the Govt. shutdown. Most people here don't have a clue how our govt. really works never taking a civics class. The GOP Did their job and the Senate refused to negotiate thus shutting down the govt.

Repeating it ad nauseum does not make it true. Attempting to circumvent the law by defunding it is not the GOP "doing their job." And Boehner preventing a vote for a clean CR is not "doing their job." And changing the rules of the House to prevent anyone else from getting something to the floor is not "doing their job." The notion that the GOP is blameless in the shutdown is pure poppycock.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

Didnt we see the same response from a government 20 or so years ago against protesters who were tired of its governments abuse of power... Tienanmen Square?

Wait, WHAT. Are you seriously comparing this to Tiananmen Square? Where the Chinese government killed hundreds of civilians? Hyperbole much?
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

As stated in the video, Bohner in a caucus meeting was promoting the tactic of shutdown.

PS...not going to defend the Collin's bill in your thread?

You know, the GOP won the House big in 2010 and were sent to D.C. to stop the foolish spending and to stop Obamacare. They did exactly what they were supposed to do and were sent to do. If that means shutting down the govt, well guess what, good for them. Your party is a fiscal disaster. They didn't learn a damn thing from the 2011 debt ceiling debate for if they did we wouldn't be in this mess again but you want to focus on the House sent to shutdown the govt. The House didn't shutdown the govt, the Senate did and that isn't going to change no matter how many times you say it.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

We don't negotiate with terrorists holding the credit of the US hostage.

Pretty childish calling American Representatives in the "Peoples' House" terrorists. You and your ilk need to grow up.
 
Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

And yet, I quoted what she said during her session in front of the Senate.....not verbatim mind you, but paraphrasing. If you trust what she says, so be it. I don't.

You paraphrased based on the snippets Fox News gave you.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

You know, the GOP won the House big in 2010 and were sent to D.C. to stop the foolish spending and to stop Obamacare. They did exactly what they were supposed to do and were sent to do. If that means shutting down the govt, well guess what, good for them. Your party is a fiscal disaster. They didn't learn a damn thing from the 2011 debt ceiling debate for if they did we wouldn't be in this mess again but you want to focus on the House sent to shutdown the govt. The House didn't shutdown the govt, the Senate did and that isn't going to change no matter how many times you say it.
Wow....you accept that House members DID proclaim their intention to shut down the govt.......and then praise them for it.......and then.....in the same breath......you deny they are shutting down the govt!!!!

Wow....forgetting what you just said and contradicting yourself......in one paragraph!

How do you do this?
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

Repeating it ad nauseum does not make it true. Attempting to circumvent the law by defunding it is not the GOP "doing their job." And Boehner preventing a vote for a clean CR is not "doing their job." And changing the rules of the House to prevent anyone else from getting something to the floor is not "doing their job." The notion that the GOP is blameless in the shutdown is pure poppycock.

Really? You think a law was broken? You really need to take a civics class. The GOP did their job, they submitted a spending bill to the Senate which is their responsibility and the Senate rejected it and refused to negotiate. That shutdown the govt. The fact that you are nothing more than a partisan is quite evident as well.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

Really? You think a law was broken? You really need to take a civics class. The GOP did their job, they submitted a spending bill to the Senate which is their responsibility and the Senate rejected it and refused to negotiate. That shutdown the govt. The fact that you are nothing more than a partisan is quite evident as well.

When did I say a law was broken? And the bold is just sweet, sweet irony. The "I know you are but what am I" defense.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

The House passed a bill they new wouldn't pass the Senate. How is that looking for negotiation?
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

Wow....you accept that House members DID proclaim their intention to shut down the govt.......and then praise them for it.......and then.....in the same breath......you deny they are shutting down the govt!!!!

Wow....forgetting what you just said and contradicting yourself......in one paragraph!

How do you do this?

I don't know if leadership did or not nor do I care because what they are doing is the right thing. We have a 17 trillion dollar debt. We had this debate in 2011 and supposedly solved the problem then, apparently not because we are back at it again.

I could be wrong, if I am I admit it, I didn't see House leadership making that statement, if they did I would agree with it because it seems that the way to negotiate with a Democrat is to give them what they want and the Republicans weren't sent to Congress to do that.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

When did I say a law was broken? And the bold is just sweet, sweet irony. The "I know you are but what am I" defense.

Sorry but the actual facts and civics makes you wrong but apparently not mature enough to admit it.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

Pretty childish calling American Representatives in the "Peoples' House" terrorists. You and your ilk need to grow up.
You need to work on your punctuation, the quotes go on the 10th word.

Even children know that.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

The House passed a bill they new wouldn't pass the Senate. How is that looking for negotiation?

I know this is really a problem for many here but we have a 17 trillion dollar debt, the debt ceiling was increased from 14.7 to 16.7 trillion in 2011. If Obama and the Senate had done their job we wouldn't be dealing with 2011 all over again.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

I don't know if leadership did or not nor do I care because what they are doing is the right thing. We have a 17 trillion dollar debt. We had this debate in 2011 and supposedly solved the problem then, apparently not because we are back at it again.

I could be wrong, if I am I admit it, I didn't see House leadership making that statement, if they did I would agree with it because it seems that the way to negotiate with a Democrat is to give them what they want and the Republicans weren't sent to Congress to do that.
So now you are backtracking on your claim that the Senate is causing the shutdown?

Wow.
 
Back
Top Bottom