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Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial[W:793:1010:1190]

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iguanaman said:
LOL All this fuss about Obama is about failure? Failure is the GOP's middle name if it is not MUD already. Another one is coming this week.
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I have not mentioned failure. That is your word.
 
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Jack Hays said:
I have not mentioned failure. That is your word.
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Interesting isn't it how failure isn't something that liberals recognize even when it hits them in the face. The Obama record under a Republican would be a different story to these people
 
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Conservative said:
I disagree, Obama knows exactly what he is doing and it is the people who support him that are stupid
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I used to think that, too...but, I've come to the conclusion that he's someone's puppet.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
GOP came to power seeking government shutdown - Video on NBCNews.com
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I am sorry, I cannot take Rachel and her propaganda nor much more of yours. What a bunch of crap. It is totally irresponsible to have a 17 trillion dollar debt. It is totally irresponsible to exempt some from Obamacare but not giving everyone that option. It is totally irresponsible to state no negotiations and it is totally false to blame the Republicans for the shutdown. Sorry but apparently actual data and results have no place in your world.
 
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Jack Hays said:
The Tea Party is the fruit of actual grass roots political engagement. Be careful what you wish for. Boehner can't control them. Harry Reid is a smallthink political aparachik and our POTUS, sadly for all of us, has all the qualities required for success except courage.:peace
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This is mostly true, the tea party started off grassroots, then the Koch brothers and friends tried to take it over and make it a new wing of the GOP.

That failed though, and the tea party has done nothing but build steam in spite of its opposition from all sides.


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Did any of you see the video of the cops in UN colored gear attempt to push the vets away.... Then the vets pushed back and these cowards were scared s**tless of a group of vets average age probably 60-70??

I shed a tear... Those people SHOULD have been scared, if they beat down those seniors, or worse killed on or two of them... 10 times those numbers would have shown up the next week.
 
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Conservative said:
I am sorry, I cannot take Rachel and her propaganda nor much more of yours. What a bunch of crap.
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You asked for quotes of GOP members calling for a govt shutdown, you have them. If you choose to not see them, you don't have to apologize to me for having self induced ignorance.

Enjoy your bliss.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
You asked for quotes of GOP members calling for a govt shutdown, you have them. If you choose to not see them, you don't have to apologize to me for having self induced ignorance.

Enjoy your bliss.
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Sorry, saw the propaganda from Maddow and stopped the video. If you call being responsible with the treasury dollars as justification for a shutdown I am all for it. I believe you confuse fiscal responsibility with commitment to a shutdown
 
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Conservative said:
Doesn't look like a link or quote to me. You liberals do project a lot and always believe your opinions are actual facts.
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Here in the form of a threat;

Boehner, in an interview following the release of the House Republicans' "Pledge to America," said he would not rule out a government shutdown,
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Here in the form of a threat;

Boehner, in an interview following the release of the House Republicans' "Pledge to America," said he would not rule out a government shutdown,
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Wait... "not rul(ing) out a government shutdown" is now a threat?
 
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Conservative said:
Sorry, saw the propaganda from Maddow and stopped the video. If you call being responsible with the treasury dollars as justification for a shutdown I am all for it. I believe you confuse fiscal responsibility with commitment to a shutdown
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If refusing to pay for previous purchases, ie being a deadbeat, is what you call "being financially responsible"....well there YOU are.

So lets see, you ask for quotes of GOP member calling for a shutdown....but you won't listen to the proof.....and you define loafers, deadbeats and skivers as being "financially responsible"!

You always make my day! Thanks for the laugh.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

Gimmesometruth said:
You asked for quotes of GOP members calling for a govt shutdown, you have them. If you choose to not see them, you don't have to apologize to me for having self induced ignorance.

Enjoy your bliss.
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The quotes in that video are out of context and don't say what you want them to say. There was no reason for a govt. shutdown but the street thug from Chicago won't negotiate. Isn't it quite amazing that all those so called accomplishments of Obama with a Democrat House and Senate led to the slaughter of Democrats in 2010? It makes me wonder about people like you and Maddow who don't understand socialistic policies and a 17 trillion dollar debt and the need for fiscal restraint.

I could give you posts of many House Democrats a lot more damaging that what Maddow posted. I find Democrats today partisan, selfish, and realy out of touch with reality just like you
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
If refusing to pay for previous purchases, ie being a deadbeat, is what you call "being financially responsible"....well there YOU are.

So lets see, you ask for quotes of GOP member calling for a shutdown....but you won't listen to the proof.....and you define loafers, deadbeats and skivers as being "financially responsible"!

You always make my day! Thanks for the laugh.
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Didn't we have this debate in 2011? Why didn't the Obama Administration cut spending? Why did the Obama Administration present a 3.77 trillion dollar budget? What I see are fiscally irresponsible people like you who want this country to become a European socialist economy and with the help of Obama you are going to get that utopia that doesn't exist.
 
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Conservative said:
The quotes in that video are out of context and don't say what you want them to say. There was no reason for a govt. shutdown but the street thug from Chicago won't negotiate. Isn't it quite amazing that all those so called accomplishments of Obama with a Democrat House and Senate led to the slaughter of Democrats in 2010? It makes me wonder about people like you and Maddow who don't understand socialistic policies and a 17 trillion dollar debt and the need for fiscal restraint.

I could give you posts of many House Democrats a lot more damaging that what Maddow posted. I find Democrats today partisan, selfish, and realy out of touch with reality just like you
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This is your SECOND attempt at the SAME QUOTE.....and you supposedly watched the video....and yet you come away from it with the idea that there was NO REASON?

The REASON was stated by the GOP members as they called for the shutdown since 2010.....TO STOP OBAMACARE.

Unbelievable!
 
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Jack Hays said:
The challenge was to produce a Boehner quote. No Boehner quote was provided.:waiting:
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Don't confuse an Obamabot with information like this, I don't think any of the quotes listed are from leaders in the Republican Party. I would hate to play the comments of Democrats during the Bush years including some by Harry Reid and Pelosi but you see those don't matter.
 
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Conservative said:
Didn't we have this debate in 2011?
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I don't know how WE did in 2011, I joined in 2012.

You are now failing the simple task of reading a calendar.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

Gimmesometruth said:
If refusing to pay for previous purchases, ie being a deadbeat, is what you call "being financially responsible"....well there YOU are.

So lets see, you ask for quotes of GOP member calling for a shutdown....but you won't listen to the proof.....and you define loafers, deadbeats and skivers as being "financially responsible"!

You always make my day! Thanks for the laugh.
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Ya' gotta' hand it to that Cruz. Chutzpah! Showing up to protest his own shutdown. A true Republican.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

Gimmesometruth said:
This is your SECOND attempt at the SAME QUOTE.....and you supposedly watched the video....and yet you come away from it with the idea that there was NO REASON?

The REASON was stated by the GOP members as they called for the shutdown since 2010.....TO STOP OBAMACARE.

Unbelievable!
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A shutdown of the Govt. wouldn't happen if the Democrats negotiated, the House did its job and Republicans won because of their stance on Obamacare and fiscal responsibility something you apparently don't understand
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
I don't know how WE did in 2011, I joined in 2012.

You are now failing the simple task of reading a calendar.
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Then do some research and find out what the 2011 debt negotiations and commitments were.
 
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Jack Hays said:
The challenge was to produce a Boehner quote. No Boehner quote was provided.:waiting:
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As stated in the video, Bohner in a caucus meeting was promoting the tactic of shutdown.

PS...not going to defend the Collin's bill in your thread?
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
As stated in the video, Bohner in a caucus meeting was promoting the tactic of shutdown.

PS...not going to defend the Collin's bill in your thread?
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The challenge was to produce a Boehner quote. No quote was provided. Fail.:waiting:
 
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Conservative said:
Then do some research and find out what the 2011 debt negotiations and commitments were.
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I remember more of the '11 debt default debate than you do, but the point was that you think being a deadbeat is "financial responsible". Until you see the error of your argument, there is not much point in going forward.
 
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Conservative said:
A shutdown of the Govt. wouldn't happen if the Democrats negotiated, the House did its job and Republicans won because of their stance on Obamacare and fiscal responsibility something you apparently don't understand
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We don't negotiate with terrorists holding the credit of the US hostage.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

Gimmesometruth said:
As stated in the video, Bohner in a caucus meeting was promoting the tactic of shutdown.

PS...not going to defend the Collin's bill in your thread?
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When the Dems put the Collins bill to a vote, we'll see.

"Republicans would support a continuing resolution that funds the government for six months at the “sequester” levels of the Budget Control Act of 2011, which was produced by that year’s debt-ceiling negotiations. Republicans would also support raising the debt ceiling to enable the government to borrow enough to finance the substantial deficit spending involved in even sequester-level spending. (The sequester’s supposed severity does not come close to balancing the budget.) Republicans also would grant agencies greater flexibility in administering the sequester’s cuts.





In exchange, Collins asked for only two things. First, a mere delay, and for just two years, of Obamacare’s medical-device tax, which is so “stupid” — Sen. Harry Reid’s characterization — that bipartisan majorities in both houses of Congress favor outright repeal. Second, enforcement of income-verification criteria for those seeking Obamacare’s insurance subsidies — criteria the administration wrote but waived.":peace
 
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