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Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial[W:793:1010:1190]

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Thanks for doing some research. How much of it do you believe is true?

i believe that the u.s military strategy in veitnam was flawed, because it relied to much on establishing a body count as a measure of success. and of course there is the horror of the My Lai massacre.
 
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Another scary thing. LOL! Afraid of a woman who had worked hard, served successfully as mayor and governor, and raised a great family. And she frightens leftists.

Were you all raised by your mothers?

Are you ****ing implying some sort of insult to my mother?
 
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i believe that the u.s military strategy in veitnam was flawed, because it relied to much on establishing a body count as a measure of success. and of course there is the horror of the My Lai massacre.

Oh Yes, My Lai was a huge scandal but few, if any, of these other crimes were reported.

Of course American troops are kept to higher standards than their opposition but if any of this was true then there obviously should have been a hearing, as with My Lai. Things like this, if true, are hugely detrimental to morale and the guilty parties must be punished.
 
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Are you ****ing implying some sort of insult to my mother?

My God!! Read it again, Man. And keep reading it until you understand what was said, okay?
 
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...just love the party of personal responsibility.... they do something and then blame others for the consequences of their actions.

Then give us a reason besides a tantrum that led to the barricading of open air monuments (large statues) that never close any other time.
Give us a reason other than a tantrum that led to the eviction of elderly senior citizens from their own private property.
Give us a reason other than a tantrum that led to the public roads being barricaded so you couldnt pull over to see Mt. Rushmore...from 10 mile away.

Make is as uncomfortable as possible, inconvenience everyone and blame it on the Republican shut down. It cost more money to barricade those monuments, roads etc than it costs when those things are open.

Where is the common sense in that?
 
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The Confederacy wasn't about states rights. It was about slavery. The freaking letters of secession said it was about slavery.

Until you can get your history straight, there is no sense reading further or replying any further. Go read what states fought on what side then ask yourself if your statement represents the facts.
 
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These are not very well read people submitting these posts. The US needs Voucher Schools as soon as possible or these sub-literates will bring down the country.

Son, please get your history straight, like I told the previous poster, go research which states fought for what side and see if your theory of "it was all about slavery" holds water...because it dont.
 
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Oh Yes, My Lai was a huge scandal but few, if any, of these other crimes were reported.

Of course American troops are kept to higher standards than their opposition but if any of this was true then there obviously should have been a hearing, as with My Lai. Things like this, if true, are hugely detrimental to morale and the guilty parties must be punished.

i posted a news article " a my lai a day" which told about what was going on in the mekong delta.

and that article brings up the biggest flaw in the u.s strategy in Vietnam, it relied too much on establishing a body count. the accusation being implied that the u.s armed forces were so focused in creating a high body count they killed civilians as well as enemy soldiers.
 
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Then give us a reason besides a tantrum that led to the barricading of open air monuments (large statues) that never close any other time.
Give us a reason other than a tantrum that led to the eviction of elderly senior citizens from their own private property.
Give us a reason other than a tantrum that led to the public roads being barricaded so you couldnt pull over to see Mt. Rushmore...from 10 mile away.

Make is as uncomfortable as possible, inconvenience everyone and blame it on the Republican shut down. It cost more money to barricade those monuments, roads etc than it costs when those things are open.

Where is the common sense in that?

The Cons shut down the government; the administration of the government then has to decide priority of use of very limited funds; the CONS must accept and bear responsibility for the CONSequences, which they never do.
 
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Sarah Palin knew she couldn't beat Obama in 2012 so she went quietly out of the limelight during the election. Election is in 2.5 years. She's already trying to get some votes. Thankfully, there are 5 years worth of tapes showing how insane she is. She's downright unelectable.

There were decades of Obama's record but that didn't matter and there were years of tapes showing what he said and what he didn't do but that didn't matter either. It s really too bad that people buy the rhetoric and ignore the results. You and others have built up a hatred for Palin and conservatives all in an attempt to divert from the Obama record. One of these days the majority in this country are going to wake up and say enough is enough. The failed Obama economic agenda and lack of leadership show exactly who and what liberals are with many of them here in this forum. It really is a shame that people like you and others buy rhetoric only. Why is that?
 
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Then give us a reason besides a tantrum that led to the barricading of open air monuments (large statues) that never close any other time.
Give us a reason other than a tantrum that led to the eviction of elderly senior citizens from their own private property.
Give us a reason other than a tantrum that led to the public roads being barricaded so you couldnt pull over to see Mt. Rushmore...from 10 mile away.

Make is as uncomfortable as possible, inconvenience everyone and blame it on the Republican shut down. It cost more money to barricade those monuments, roads etc than it costs when those things are open.

Where is the common sense in that?

if you want here is the department of inteiriors contingincy plan in case of a government shutdown.

http://www.doi.gov/shutdown/fy2014/upload/NPS-contingency-plan.pdf

http://www.doi.gov/shutdown/fy2014/upload/NPS-FAQ.pdf
 
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The Cons shut down the government; the administration of the government then has to decide priority of use of very limited funds; the CONS must accept and bear responsibility for the CONSequences, which they never do.

The cons didn't shutdown the govt. the Democrat controlled Senate did. Too bad civics isn't something you took in high school.
 
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The cons didn't shutdown the govt. the Democrat controlled Senate did. Too bad civics isn't something you took in high school.

By not being a rubber stamp? They're not required (nor should they be) a rubber stamp for the House.
 
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By not being a rubber stamp? They're not required (nor should they be) a rubber stamp for the House.

The President, and the senate don't get to hold the house hostage with a 'my way, or no way' strategy without blame.
 
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All right, you talked me into trying them, since brownies are my favorite food! I'm sending you an order for one dozen, please. :thumbs:

Greetings, Dogbreath. :2wave:

Greetings polgara,

That's one doz. brownies to go. Would you prefer the magic brownies, or the regular ones?
 
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By not being a rubber stamp? They're not required (nor should they be) a rubber stamp for the House.

That doesn't change the fact that it was the Senate that shutdown the Govt. not the House. The House did their job and the Senate by failing to negotiate shutdown the govt.
 
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Greetings polgara,

That's one doz. brownies to go. Would you prefer the magic brownies, or the regular ones?

Could I buy a half dozen of each? If I'm going to be able to make a fair comparison, I really should try both!

You have no idea how difficult it was for me to limit the magic ones to only six, but people expect an honest, unbiased opinion!
:mrgreen:

Eagerly awaiting delivery at your earliest convenience! :thumbs:
 
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The cons didn't shutdown the govt. the Democrat controlled Senate did. Too bad civics isn't something you took in high school.

You are really living in a false reality. The Cons put a poison pill in the CR and then complained no one would negotiate with them. You were once a business man. You know what a poison pill is and when its used. Its used when you want to say you made an offer, but really didn't make an offer. Sorry, you, I and 72% of other Americans knows the Cons own this one.
 
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You are really living in a false reality. The Cons put a poison pill in the CR and then complained no one would negotiate with them. You were once a business man. You know what a poison pill is and when its used. Its used when you want to say you made an offer, but really didn't make an offer. Sorry, you, I and 72% of other Americans knows the Cons own this one.

Maybe they owned it at the very beginning, however, the moment the repubs started backing off repeal, for lessor options, and Obama, and Reid started hold them hostage for 'my way, or no way', it became owned lock, stock, and barrel by libs.
 
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Maybe they owned it at the very beginning, however, the moment the repubs started backing off repeal, for lessor options, and Obama, and Reid started hold them hostage for 'my way, or no way', it became owned lock, stock, and barrel by libs.

maybe because raising the debt ceiling and keeping the government funding are part of the governments jobs.
 
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maybe because raising the debt ceiling and keeping the government funding are part of the governments jobs.

The government was funded by repubs in the house...Reid chose not to even bring the bills up...That is Senate demo's fault.
 
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The government was funded by repubs in the house...Reid chose not to even bring the bills up...That is Senate demo's fault.

and what about the conditions added to the house bills related to pieces of the affordable care act?
 
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You are really living in a false reality. The Cons put a poison pill in the CR and then complained no one would negotiate with them. You were once a business man. You know what a poison pill is and when its used. Its used when you want to say you made an offer, but really didn't make an offer. Sorry, you, I and 72% of other Americans knows the Cons own this one.

It doesn't make a damn difference what the Republicans put in the bill, they did their job, they passed a spending bill that you claim put a poison pill in it for the Democrats. You see giving exemptions to campaign supporters is ok but requesting an exemption for the rest of America is wrong. No negotiations is what shutdown the govt. and that is entirely Harry Reid and Obama.
 
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i posted a news article " a my lai a day" which told about what was going on in the mekong delta.

and that article brings up the biggest flaw in the u.s strategy in Vietnam, it relied too much on establishing a body count. the accusation being implied that the u.s armed forces were so focused in creating a high body count they killed civilians as well as enemy soldiers.

Yes, the American people and there government were always on the wrong side during the Cold War. Oddly enough I discovered they were also wrong in Iraq, Nicaragua, Panama, and sundry other places where Communists and dictators were running amok.

I support the US military and their allies, am aware that some things are inexcusable and people should be charged, but also look at who and what they have been fighting against.
 
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Yes, the American people and there government were always on the wrong side during the Cold War. Oddly enough I discovered they were also wrong in Iraq, Nicaragua, Panama, and sundry other places where Communists and dictators were running amok.

I support the US military and their allies, am aware that some things are inexcusable and people should be charged, but also look at who and what they have been fighting against.

some people who opposed the Vietnam war argued that the united states had no business getting involved in what some believed was a Vietnamese civil war. the funny thing is that we had no problem with certian dictatorships and their atrocities, Pinochet, as long as they did not support Communism.

i don't justify a war that uses a body count of enemy's killed as a measure of success.
 
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