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Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

The bolts were ordered removed during the Obama administration. Apacherat is leading on points.

So what.

"Name one other President in history that ordered Marines to remove the bolts from their rifles fearing a military coups on Obama's second inauguration ? You can't because only Obama has done it."

This was the statement. It has zero basis in fact. APACHERAT is buying into idiotic right-wing conspiracy drivel. And you're going to bat for him in the most pedantic fashion possible.
 
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Well at least he does to anyone whose in the "I hate Obama" camp.

I don't hate BHO; he has every quality required of a successful POTUS except courage.
 
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So what.

"Name one other President in history that ordered Marines to remove the bolts from their rifles fearing a military coups on Obama's second inauguration ? You can't because only Obama has done it."

This was the statement. It has zero basis in fact. APACHERAT is buying into idiotic right-wing conspiracy drivel. And you're going to bat for him in the most pedantic fashion possible.

Your claim of pedantry is only the usual dodge to downplay a defeat on the facts. Bolts were ordered removed. I don't care why.:lamo
 
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That's not an answer.

Can you prove that the rifles being carried by Marines in the 2009 inaugural parade were fireable, and that making them non-functional is a new policy set forth by Obama, as opposed to the Secret Service?

The Secret Service isn't part of the U.S. military chain of command. Only someone higher up could order rifles being made inoperable.

Doing a quick search of all Marine Corps directives from November of 08 to January of 09 I couldn't find any directives from Marine Corps HQ's ordering that rifles were to be made inoperable.

After 9-11-01, only a paranoid narcissist would order the U.S. military to remove their firing pins or bolts from their rifles.
 
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Politicians didn't need to be a part of this.

Nor the illegal criminals protest at the closed Mall, where some 30 politicians showe up, including Pedlosi & Menendez

The only government employees that should have been there were INS agents making arrests.
 
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Heard the best name for Palin today:

Hello Quitty
 
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The Secret Service isn't part of the U.S. military chain of command. Only someone higher up could order rifles being made inoperable.

Given that it's a ceremonial occasion, wouldn't the military acquiesce to the Secret Service's directions regarding the parade?

Doing a quick search of all Marine Corps directives from November of 08 to January of 09 I couldn't find any directives from Marine Corps HQ's ordering that rifles were to be made inoperable.

And?

After 9-11-01, only a paranoid narcissist would order the U.S. military to remove their firing pins or bolts from their rifles.

Invoking 9/11? An event where Marines with rifles would have ... not altered the course of events in any way?
 
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Your claim of pedantry is only the usual dodge to downplay a defeat on the facts. Bolts were ordered removed. I don't care why.:lamo

When the whole argument is about why, then I'd say it's pretty important to care if you're actually trying to participate in the discussion rather than just play Statler-and-Waldorf from the cheap seats.
 
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When the whole argument is about why, then I'd say it's pretty important to care if you're actually trying to participate in the discussion rather than just play Statler-and-Waldorf from the cheap seats.

I am but a humble servant of the data.:peace
 
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Sarah Palin knew she couldn't beat Obama in 2012 so she went quietly out of the limelight during the election. Election is in 2.5 years. She's already trying to get some votes. Thankfully, there are 5 years worth of tapes showing how insane she is. She's downright unelectable.

As Shakespeare said "When shall we be rid of such vermin?"
 
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I don't hate BHO; he has every quality required of a successful POTUS except courage.

Yeah... personal attack on someone you don't know personally. Of course you don't hate him. :lol:
 
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Yeah... personal attack on someone you don't know personally. Of course you don't hate him. :lol:

His record supports my statement. Otherwise I would not have made it.
 
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I am insulted the RWers imply the Marines are not well disciplined and loyal. We have a long tradition of that sort of thing.

Is John Kerry included in that "we"?

"They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country".
 
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What does Kerry have to do with the RWers dissing the Marines?
Is John Kerry included in that "we"?

"They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country".
 
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What does Kerry have to do with the RWers dissing the Marines?

Who do you think Kerry is dissing in those statements? Is he a RWer? I certainly hope not!
 
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I am insulted the RWers imply the Marines are not well disciplined and loyal. We have a long tradition of that sort of thing.


None has, so you can rest easy.
 
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What the hell are you talking about?
Who do you think Kerry is dissing in those statements? Is he a RWer? I certainly hope not!
 
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What the hell are you talking about?

John Kerry said this about the military in Vietnam.


"They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country".

Does that sound honest and loyal to you?
 
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Is this thead about Kerry?
John Kerry said this about the military in Vietnam.




Does that sound honest and loyal to you?
 
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Is this thead about Kerry?

Now you know what I'm talking about, huh??

Dissing the military was mentioned and that was perhaps the biggest diss in military history made by an American.

John Kerry is just another lying left winger, like Obama and Hillary.
 
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Oh, I made that comment in reply to the RW fantasy of the Marines not being disciplined enough to be trusted with their firearms. Again, I ask you, what does Kerry have to do with it?
Now you know what I'm talking about, huh??

Dissing the military was mentioned and that was perhaps the biggest diss in military history made by an American.

John Kerry is just another lying left winger, like Obama and Hillary.
 
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Oh, I made that comment in reply to the RW fantasy of the Marines not being disciplined enough to be trusted with their firearms. Again, I ask you, what does Kerry have to do with it?

I've just explained it to you again. John Kerry made that statement under oath as reality, not fantasy, and he is not a right winger.

And this thread title is "Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial". If you go off topic yourself then don't tell me what can or cannot be mentioned. Dissing was mentioned and I responded to that with the greatest diss of all.
 
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I sometimes forget how mindless partisan hacks think, sorry. I dont like Kerry for that same reason, I dont like Jane Fonda or Ted Nugent and I damn sure dont like it when the party that calls themselves great Americans spew their patriotism instead of live it, take advantage of the real Patriots for political gain. Any more questions?
I've just explained it to you again. John Kerry made that statement under oath as reality, not fantasy, and he is not a right winger.

And this thread title is "Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial". If you go off topic yourself then don't tell me what can or cannot be mentioned. Dissing was mentioned and I responded to that with the greatest diss of all.
 
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I've just explained it to you again. John Kerry made that statement under oath as reality, not fantasy, and he is not a right winger.

And this thread title is "Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial". If you go off topic yourself then don't tell me what can or cannot be mentioned. Dissing was mentioned and I responded to that with the greatest diss of all.

if he was under oath, then what was he being asked about and who was asking him the question.
 
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Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

Forget the politicians involved, this is political gain for them - the point of this posting is to commend the Veterans who are not sitting back and just taking it. They are standing up to the government because of how badly it is behaving.

This is NOT the country these men fought for, that country would never barricade statues, close down roads and evict people from private property because they were having a hissy fit. The country they fought for would not try to make anything as painful as they can on the American people just because they want to make a point - the point of you need government and without government you will suffer.

How does that very government reply to the protests...my sending out police in riot gear to quell the protests.
‘We Are Marching to the White House’: ‘Million Vet March’ Descends on Washington, Barricades Torn Down | Video | TheBlaze.com

Didnt we see the same response from a government 20 or so years ago against protesters who were tired of its governments abuse of power... Tienanmen Square?

Ted Cruz showing up for this event is a bit like a terrorist bomber returning to the scene of his crime and caring for the wounded, or worse, a murderer joining the sheriff's posse (they'll never find me if I am riding with them)....
 
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