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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your opinion noted but obviously the following doesn't matter

    Then of course there is GDP numbers which of course have been distorted by liberals.

    So GDP growing 4.5 trillion dollars is a bad thing? Clinton had a 3.5 trillion growth and Obama's is the worst of the three.

    Then there is this

    Still want to claim that Bush didn't have positive economic results? Those liberal talking points of yours are full of holes that only Obamabots believe. By the way, Republicans controlled the Congress from January 2003 to January 2007 so yes, put them back in charge
    So you bold through 2008, but ignore 2009, which was the recovery from the economic dump and before any lasting Obama policies took effect. Holy dishonesty, Batman.

    The economy took a colossal crap on Bush's watch. Or are we now trying to change the calendar so that the crash and resulting recession started under Obama?

    You hack.
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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    First of all, thanks for your admission on this clip of Limbaugh, and the resulting smear, being totally false..It takes at the least a shred of honesty to admit that...I appreciate that.

    But, MM is probably the worst site in this country for lying about in general about republicans, or anyone that goes against liberal orthodoxy...They are rank propagandists, and not even good ones.
    I will say that particular clip was erroneous. But MMFA generally does a decent job of cataloguing right-wing media's smears.
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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I will say that particular clip was erroneous. But MMFA generally does a decent job of cataloguing right-wing media's smears.
    Ok, here's a challenge for you then.....Go on over to the General political discussion forum (I think that would be the right place), and start a thread on MM, and what you think they say that is true, I will research it, and prove it is a total lie, either in contextual ommision, or in outright manipulation of what was said....MM, David Brock, and his daddy George Soros are liars, but that isn't the topic here, so I'll just leave it at that.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, it means what I just said....Cut 1% of spending, and balance the damned budget...Why shouldn't we have a balanced budget? Everyone I know of has to do that, why shouldn't they?
    So, you are dismissing the other part of the plan that caps spending at 18%?

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So you bold through 2008, but ignore 2009, which was the recovery from the economic dump and before any lasting Obama policies took effect. Holy dishonesty, Batman.

    The economy took a colossal crap on Bush's watch. Or are we now trying to change the calendar so that the crash and resulting recession started under Obama?

    You hack.
    I ignored 2009 because Obama implemented his stimulus program almost immediately after entering office or did you forget? That was for shovel ready jobs that was going to keep unemployment below 8%. The economy took a big hit in 2008 and was coming out of recession which it did in June 2009 which obviously you forgot as well. Leadership is about talking responsibility and taking the cards that you are dealt. Bush was dealt a recession in 2001 which was also bolded so Bush is responsible for the results in 2001 just like Obama is responsible for the results of 2009. To this date Obama still doesn't take responsibility for the results nor do his supporters/

    As a hack I post actual data, refute the data, tell me when those shovels are going to arrive for those shovel ready jobs? Tell me why Bush is charged with the entire economic collapse with Democrats in control of Congress? Tell me why Bush is responsible for the entire 2009 deficit when Obama spent well over 700 billion dollars in 2009? Tell me why leftwing partisans cannot accept responsibility for anything?

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by DiavoTheMiavo View Post
    So, you are dismissing the other part of the plan that caps spending at 18%?
    Why is that so out of bounds...Historically that has always been the level it has bounced around....That is until Big spender Obama came to town....
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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Wrong. You're wrong. You have no clue what you're talking about. None whatsoever.
    Well, point out to me where they championed the ideas of individual freedoms and liberty then instead of their collectivist ideology towards the state that they demonstrated. Until then, I'll rest on their leftist deeds for their states as a statement of their political activity. Others might should consider it as well as an edge against future tyranny.
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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I ignored 2009 because Obama implemented his stimulus program almost immediately after entering office or did you forget? That was for shovel ready jobs that was going to keep unemployment below 8%. The economy took a big hit in 2008 and was coming out of recession which it did in June 2009 which obviously you forgot as well. Leadership is about talking responsibility and taking the cards that you are dealt. Bush was dealt a recession in 2001 which was also bolded so Bush is responsible for the results in 2001 just like Obama is responsible for the results of 2009. To this date Obama still doesn't take responsibility for the results nor do his supporters/

    As a hack I post actual data, refute the data, tell me when those shovels are going to arrive for those shovel ready jobs? Tell me why Bush is charged with the entire economic collapse with Democrats in control of Congress? Tell me why Bush is responsible for the entire 2009 deficit when Obama spent well over 700 billion dollars in 2009? Tell me partisans cannot accept responsibility for anything?
    I didn't say Bush was responsible for the entire 2009 deficit; however, he (or, at least his administration) was responsible for the entirety of 2009 unemployment. Economy crashes, unemployment happens later.

    I also never charged Bush with the entire economic collapse. I'm on record as saying that both parties had a hand in it. The only person I see trying to blame the crappy economy on one person is you.

    And also, even trying to equate the mild downturn Bush got in 2001 with the utter economic meltdown Obama inherited in 2009 is stunningly dishonest.

    You are the LAST person to be calling anyone a partisan. You post cherry-picked data, bolded for your convenience, minus all economic context, to make your guy look good. You're a hack.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why is that so out of bounds...Historically that has always been the level it has bounced around....That is until Big spender Obama came to town....
    You keep asking that question, but you cannot tell me how the government can run on a budget less than $1-trillion a year. I keep telling you I don't see a way to cut up to 66% of our spending. Enlighten me on the immediate cuts you believe can happen under this plan.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Have you ever considered studying even a little bit of political science instead of just making it up as you go by indulging in these very childish and inane statements?
    Let us know when you receive your GED.
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