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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    We're off the Nazi thing. Those of us who know better know that Nazism pretty much transcends the left-right dichotomy. It's not even remotely what Gardener was talking about.
    No it doesn't. The neo-Nazis are extreme rightists and they model themselves off of Nazism. You may be able to get some traction accusing the left of being commies though. But be careful if you do because the two are diametrically opposed at the extremes of the political spectrum.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    what romney and the republican's were offering in 2012 was unpalatable to the majority of the American people.

    the democrats kept control of the senate, kept their majority, because the people voted for them to represent them.
    Only 1/3 of the Senate were up for reelection so it's not quite true that the people voted to continue with a Senate that doesn't represent the American people but an incompetent man who spends more time playing golf and blaming others for his own failures.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Citing hundred-year-old studies isn't exactly making a strong case.
    Tell it to the left, it was their study.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Tell it to the left, it was their study.
    It was NINETEEN-OH-EIGHT. You really think conservatives of that time period had super-enlightened ideas about race?

    I realize that everything bad in the universe, you will attempt to pin on "the left," but at least try to show a shred of intellectual honesty.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    The ones that are embarrassed by her and/or were pissed they had to vote with her on the ticket?
    Again, which conservatives are you referring to ?

    Names please.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    No actually those who study history understand Nazism comes in many flavors and is not a left or right thing.
    And those who also study history know today this new anti-Semitic movement is tied to the Socialist agenda.

    Here's a quote for you all to chew on
    It's always cute when new people try to lecture me as somehow being ignorant of the one subject for which I have studied at greatest length. I have been here for 8 years and have devoted over a thousand posts to combatting antisemitism.

    What you think this has to do with anything I actually said is beyond me.
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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    It was NINETEEN-OH-EIGHT. You really think conservatives of that time period had super-enlightened ideas about race?

    I realize that everything bad in the universe, you will attempt to pin on "the left," but at least try to show a shred of intellectual honesty.
    It's the Congressional Progressive Caucus that keeps bringing up the progressive era in America and who keep bringing up Theodore Roosevelt as being one of their own.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It's the Congressional Progressive Caucus that keeps bringing up the progressive era in America and who keep bringing up Theodore Roosevelt as being one of their own.
    Okay.

    Using 100-year-old studies as "proof" that "the left" are the real racists is the height of intellectual dishonesty. It's like you're not even trying to have a serious conversation. So bugger off.
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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    We're off the Nazi thing. Those of us who know better know that Nazism pretty much transcends the left-right dichotomy. It's not even remotely what Gardener was talking about.
    No we're not off the Nazi thing just yet.

    The right has little use for collectivism. The further right you go, the less use for collectivism.

    Just because socialism may be a little to the right of communism or fascism doesn't mean it's to the right. It still relies on and pushes collectivism through big government influence which undermines individual freedom which is a trait of all leftist political groups. Nazi's have little use for individual freedoms.
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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    No we're not off the Nazi thing just yet.

    The right has little use for collectivism. The further right you go, the less use for collectivism.

    Just because socialism may be a little to the right of communism or fascism doesn't mean it's to the right. It still relies on and pushes collectivism through big government influence which undermines individual freedom which is a trait of all leftist political groups. Nazi's have little use for individual freedoms.
    Fascism isn't a "left" ideology either. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Authoritarians have little use for individual freedoms; they exist on both the very far right and very far left.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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