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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    Stormfront's agenda is completely consistent with a part of the bagger's agenda. That's not debatable in the least but it is debatable on how much of the bagger party members are racists and haters.

    If one looks at their representation on the street then one can come to a conclusion on how ingrained it is with them. It's as easy as looking at one of their demonstrations and the signs they carry.

    I would sincerely suggest that the biggest element portrayed at any one time is racism and hate, certainly not a desire for bringing back their supplyside agenda. Most baggers don't even understand what it means and if they did they would be running from it.
    How do you know that people carrying signs or wearing provocative T-Shirts are members of the Tea Party?

    It was demonstrated long ago that there were left wing plants at these rallies and they were asked to leave.

    In order to have a legitimate opinion of the Tea Party it would be necessary to visit an official Tea Party website. Those who get their information from T-Shirts or Placards tend to not be very bright. 'Progressive' in fact.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How do you know that people carrying signs or wearing provocative T-Shirts are members of the Tea Party?

    It was demonstrated long ago that there were left wing plants at these rallies and they were asked to leave.

    In order to have a legitimate opinion of the Tea Party it would be necessary to visit an official Tea Party website. Those who get their information from T-Shirts or Placards tend to not be very bright. 'Progressive' in fact.
    Yeah o.k., they're all leftwing plants. At least that's better than denial that they aren't there with the baggers and they don't exist!

    Really, there's no use denying that the racist element is there, but you could argue to what degree I guess. And if there is an effort to eliminate it then I haven't heard it. Do you have some bagger leaders on record saying that it needs to be eliminated?

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    Yeah o.k., they're all leftwing plants. At least that's better than denial that they aren't there with the baggers and they don't exist!

    Really, there's no use denying that the racist element is there, but you could argue to what degree I guess. And if there is an effort to eliminate it then I haven't heard it. Do you have some bagger leaders on record saying that it needs to be eliminated?
    Have you actually visited a Tea Party website to see what they're all about?

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    Yeah o.k., they're all leftwing plants. At least that's better than denial that they aren't there with the baggers and they don't exist!

    Really, there's no use denying that the racist element is there, but you could argue to what degree I guess. And if there is an effort to eliminate it then I haven't heard it. Do you have some bagger leaders on record saying that it needs to be eliminated?
    There is no need to eliminate that which has never been part of the Tea Party in the first place.
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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No. The Romney Ryan patch was added to an existing photo.
    Prove it. And even if it was, that shirt itself still a racist attack on Obama.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Prove it. And even if it was, that shirt itself still a racist attack on Obama.
    Because the photo predates the Romney/Ryan nomination. Yes, it's a racist attack, but by who? Nothing ties it to any political group.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Dinner guests. Out. Be well.
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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Have you actually visited a Tea Party website to see what they're all about?
    There's no mistaking what their 'professed' agenda is and so I don't need to be told it again and again. On the contrary, I can see what their real agenda is by looking at them in action. And don't forget, they've clearly aligned themselves with the crazy vaudeville comedian Glenn Beck. Is that alone any way to put their bid in for running a country? Media comedy shows of that sort can't really be taken seriously by voters. They haven't distanced themselves from that idiot either and that's because it's a large part of their support in the days of growing the brand.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Because the photo predates the Romney/Ryan nomination. Yes, it's a racist attack, but by who? Nothing ties it to any political group.
    It's good enough for now to have their support on the run with denial of the facts they have presented with their signs and demonstrations.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    Stormfront's agenda is completely consistent with a part of the bagger's agenda. That's not debatable in the least but it is debatable on how much of the bagger party members are racists and haters.
    I don't think that's remotely true either. This conversation isn't and hasn't been about "all tea partiers are racist." This is a stupid pissing match after I made an offhanded comment with a derisive nickname toward Sarah Palin and Grant and Jack Hays went off the deep end.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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