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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

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    Neither is the debt service on the debt paid every day. There is more than enough money to fund the monthly debt service.
    Again, you did not read the letter and are claiming greater knowledge than the Secretary of the Treasury.

    Tell us, how long did you hold office there?
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

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    How much should be given back? 50% 60% or should we do like France did and make some people pay 105%?
    105%? Well played.

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    +more back and forth

    Watching this back and forth between a strong liberal mind and a strong conservative mind... I can't help but lean towards the conservative viewpoint because the conservative viewpoint does more to promote personal responsibility...

    That doesn't mean that I don't feel that there should be some form of safety net to help those that need a hand... The problem comes from the fact that many of the people, begin to lean on these programs instead of doing what is needed to improve their situation...

    The thing with free money is that it breeds dependence and the more dependence eventually those with responsibility cannot give enough to sustain those whose only problem is laziness.
    People do abuse the system. We shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water though. The system is broke to a degree. Working a min wage job doesn't bring home enough bacon. Getting off welfare isn't always that easy.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Again, you did not read the letter and are claiming greater knowledge than the Secretary of the Treasury.

    Tell us, how long did you hold office there?
    I am waiting for you to tell me the economic prediction Obama has made that has been accurate? Now he keeps making predictions and you keep buying them. Hope you are getting paid well.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    105%? Well played.
    I shirt you not....
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/100749491


    People do abuse the system. We shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water though.
    Frankly, I've benefitted from that safety net, made the difference from having to spend some homeless time.

    The system is broke to a degree. Working a min wage job doesn't bring home enough bacon. Getting off welfare isn't always that easy.
    Yes, the system is broken... Let's use the analogy of domestication of wild pigs. What you do is put some food out for the pigs... Do this for a week, then put up a post near the food, continue this until the fence is all but built, then you put out the food and the pigs can't help themselves and you just close the gate.

    Frankly, if you are stuck in minimum wage past 20, it's because you've made some bad life decisions.

    I'll tell you something; I have yet to meet a single person that is a combination of hard working, dedicated, intelligent, and or driven people that makes minimum wage or remains unemployed for very long.

    what this means is that the failures are not just with the welfare system, it really is total systemic failures on every front, and the abuse of the social safety net is just among the symptoms of the greater problems we are facing as a society.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

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    I am waiting for you to tell me the economic prediction Obama has made that has been accurate? Now he keeps making predictions and you keep buying them. Hope you are getting paid well.
    Michael Moore pays me in cupcakes and waffles.
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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Yes, the system is broken... Let's use the analogy of domestication of wild pigs. What you do is put some food out for the pigs... Do this for a week, then put up a post near the food, continue this until the fence is all but built, then you put out the food and the pigs can't help themselves and you just close the gate.
    I like the frog and boiling water better.

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Frankly, if you are stuck in minimum wage past 20, it's because you've made some bad life decisions.
    This is probably true. Still, them being stuck in a minimum wage job doesn't help society either. Young people do stupid ****.

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    I'll tell you something; I have yet to meet a single person that is a combination of hard working, dedicated, intelligent, and or driven people that makes minimum wage or remains unemployed for very long.
    This is true. Unfortunately, we will always have lazy people too.

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    what this means is that the failures are not just with the welfare system, it really is total systemic failures on every front, and the abuse of the social safety net is just among the symptoms of the greater problems we are facing as a society.
    This is true.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I am waiting for you to tell me the economic prediction Obama has made that has been accurate? Now he keeps making predictions and you keep buying them. Hope you are getting paid well.
    OK, you want to change the topic, you have lost the argument.

    Verdict: Imposing the debt limit was real and would have caused non-payment, default and damaged the credit of the US at a minimum. The argument from your side is that they would rather pay interest to China instead of paying for Medicare.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    OK, you want to change the topic, you have lost the argument.

    Verdict: Imposing the debt limit was real and would have caused non-payment, default and damaged the credit of the US at a minimum. The argument from your side is that they would rather pay interest to China instead of paying for Medicare.
    That is your opinion, now tell us how much you are getting paid to pass on this propaganda? Medicare is an entitlement and would have been paid out of the revenue that comes into the Treasury monthly just like SS, Medicaid, as well as SS

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

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    Same with the criticism of Obama, then.
    Hardly. BHO has been treated quite civilly compared to what the left did to GWB.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The numbers I put out there are what has been bandied about on different programs in discussions, from FNC, to MSNBC. But I think maybe you are misreading the "national income" part of it....The way this idea has been talked about before in interviews, is that our current levels of spending would cap, and we would start real cuts of 1% of every dollar spent for 6 years, and this is supposed to balance the budget.
    Not sure how I am misreading it. National income verses national revenue . . . whats the difference?

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