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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    I would also agree that the budgeting process need not be interrupted in a last ditch effort to "get your way".
    What 'budgeting process'? When was the last time a budget was passed?

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by uncleray View Post
    Sarah is just a publicity hog trying to keep her name in the news any way she can. She quit her job as Gov, so would that not be a case of a Cn'C abandoning "her troops"?
    No.

    I believe Ms. Palin resigned the governorship to save the Alaskan taxpayers millions of dollars of fighting bogus leftist lawsuits being filed against the governor.

    What if Obama resigned because he was costing the American taxpayers a trillion dollars a year ?

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Even if Park services are around then as they are right now...why the barricades? I kept referring to the tour guides because it is those and the store sales people who are not working the monuments. Well, those people arent there at 2:30 am either...why the barricades?

    Tour guides and store sales people arent in the homes and private businesses. Why evict them and order the closing of privately owned and operated businesses?

    To make it as uncomfortable as possible and to have the media tout how horrific this shut down is.
    I can see the bubble headed blonde with big hooters reporting now....Why it is so bad they are closing down statues, those damn Republicans and their shutdown stopping little Mary from her class trip.
    I can't answer any of those questions and it was never my intention to debate them.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What 'budgeting process'? When was the last time a budget was passed?
    So instead of replying to my comment, you want to double down by asking me a loaded question.

    Allow me to alter the terminology; fiscal appropriations process.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    No.

    I believe Ms. Palin resigned the governorship to save the Alaskan taxpayers millions of dollars of fighting bogus leftist lawsuits being filed against the governor.

    What if Obama resigned because he was costing the American taxpayers a trillion dollars a year ?
    Hmmmm. Sounds more like an outgrowth of Troopergate.
    Palin ‘Troopergate’ - ProPublica

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    What if Obama resigned because he was costing the American taxpayers a trillion dollars a year ?
    Then you'd critcize him for that. It's all partisan.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No one has been as unfairly attacked as much as Sarah Palin, with only Michelle Bachmann coming close. Their actual policies are very seldom discussed, they are only attacked as human beings.

    Nancy Pelosi has been attacked more for her policies and politics than who she is as a human being.

    But this has what the left has made America. If there is any Republican who might be a candidate for the Presidency they are immediately set upon by the low info leftists who savage these people personally, say they are 'afraid', but are never intelligent or well informed enough to ever discuss actual policies. This deliberate dumbing down of the American voter is costing the country dearly.
    Good Lord, you really do think you're the most persecuted group in America....

    Michele Bachmann actually is insane. Unless you call hiding in the bushes during a gay marriage rally sane. In which case, God help you. You're beyond even her husband's help.

    Maybe we can pray the CPC away....


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by uncleray View Post
    Hmmmm. Sounds more like an outgrowth of Troopergate.
    Palin ‘Troopergate’ - ProPublica
    Unlikely since she was exonerated.




    Final Report of Alaska Personnel Board

    On November 3, 2008, the Alaska Personnel Board concluded its probe and determined that Palin had not violated ethics laws, contradicting the earlier investigations. Tim Petumenos, the lawyer hired by the Board to conduct the probe, was quoted as stating in his final report, "There is no probable cause to believe that the governor, or any other state official, violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in connection with these matters."[6] The Personnel Board report also dismissed Monegan's request for a hearing and recommended that the police union (PSEA) amended complaint be dismissed.[4] The Summary and Recommendations of the Petumenos report are as follows:
    SUMMARY OF PUBLIC FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
    1. There is no probable cause to believe that Governor Palin violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act by making the decision to dismiss Department of Public Safety Commissioner Monegan and offering him instead the position of Director of the Alcohol Beverage Control Board.
    2. There is no probable cause to believe that Governor Palin violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in any other respect in connection with the employment of Alaska State Trooper Michael Wooten.
    3. There is no basis upon which to refer the conduct of Governor Palin to any law enforcement agency in connection with this matter because Governor Palin did not commit the offenses of Interference with Official Proceedings or Official Misconduct.
    4. There is no probable cause to believe that any other official of state government violated any substantive provision of the Ethics Act.
    5. There is no legal basis or jurisdiction for conducting a "Due Process Hearing to Address Reputational Harm" as requested by former Commissioner Walter Monegan.
    6. The Amended Complaint by the PSEA should be dismissed.
    7. Independent Counsel recommends that the appropriate agency of State government address the issue of the private use of e-mails for government work and revisit the record retention policies of the Governor's Office.
    These findings differ from those of the Branchflower Report because Independent Counsel has concluded the wrong statute was used as a basis for the conclusions contained in the Branchflower Report. The Branchflower Report misconstrued the available evidence and did not consider or obtain all of the material evidence that is required to properly reach findings in this matter.[4]
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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Unlikely since she was exonerated.




    Final Report of Alaska Personnel Board

    On November 3, 2008, the Alaska Personnel Board concluded its probe and determined that Palin had not violated ethics laws, contradicting the earlier investigations. Tim Petumenos, the lawyer hired by the Board to conduct the probe, was quoted as stating in his final report, "There is no probable cause to believe that the governor, or any other state official, violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in connection with these matters."[6] The Personnel Board report also dismissed Monegan's request for a hearing and recommended that the police union (PSEA) amended complaint be dismissed.[4] The Summary and Recommendations of the Petumenos report are as follows:
    SUMMARY OF PUBLIC FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
    1. There is no probable cause to believe that Governor Palin violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act by making the decision to dismiss Department of Public Safety Commissioner Monegan and offering him instead the position of Director of the Alcohol Beverage Control Board.
    2. There is no probable cause to believe that Governor Palin violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in any other respect in connection with the employment of Alaska State Trooper Michael Wooten.
    3. There is no basis upon which to refer the conduct of Governor Palin to any law enforcement agency in connection with this matter because Governor Palin did not commit the offenses of Interference with Official Proceedings or Official Misconduct.
    4. There is no probable cause to believe that any other official of state government violated any substantive provision of the Ethics Act.
    5. There is no legal basis or jurisdiction for conducting a "Due Process Hearing to Address Reputational Harm" as requested by former Commissioner Walter Monegan.
    6. The Amended Complaint by the PSEA should be dismissed.
    7. Independent Counsel recommends that the appropriate agency of State government address the issue of the private use of e-mails for government work and revisit the record retention policies of the Governor's Office.
    These findings differ from those of the Branchflower Report because Independent Counsel has concluded the wrong statute was used as a basis for the conclusions contained in the Branchflower Report. The Branchflower Report misconstrued the available evidence and did not consider or obtain all of the material evidence that is required to properly reach findings in this matter.[4]
    This is a perfect example of liberal tactics where they grab the headlines, destroy the individual and then when the truth comes out aren't anywhere to be found nor is the candidate that they destroyed. Is it any wonder that it is hard to get qualified good people to run for public office? Who wants their entire life scrutinized like Democrats do with Conservatives as they ignore their own. The Obama background is much worse than anything Palin did but it doesn't matter, any challenge against Obama is racist. I am sick of liberal Democrats and their tactics

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Then you'd critcize him for that. It's all partisan.
    There were many who criticised RMN for resigning.

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