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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I'm simply saying that it will be brought up again and Hillary won't be able to run from answering it. Especially when it's a one on one debate where her opponent has had the opportunity to study the incident and counter her "What does it really matter?!" crap she threw at the Congress. People don't watch CSPAN Congressional sessions. They watch those debates. And the people watching those debates will be able to see if she is truthful, dodging, etc. As far as banking my hopes, I think the Dems are in a much worse position than the GOP. The GOP can put forth at least 2 exciting candidates that will bring refreshing views to the table. Who do the Dems have? Hillary? She's a retread and most are tired of seeing her. Biden? LOL! Booker isn't running. Who else is there?
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    I let you know at the end of the week, depending on how much is shenanigans cost my investments. Hopefully he keeps my losses under 6 figures...... Wait, that's right, I moved everything to cash last month, so I guess I will be ok. Now, if I were a republican, I would only be worried about myself (who gives a damn about anyone else), and I would be ok, so I guess I would see Cruz as ok.... but I am not a Con(artist), so he isn't.
    Well you are very frightened, as you said, and it shows in the rambling tone of your post.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Which of the four states I mentioned did not join the Confederacy?

    Then explain why it matters which states seceded when the discussion is about why they seceded.
    What states succeeded is very important to your theory. If the war was about slavery, wouldnt the slave states have seceded? But they didnt..not all slave states were Confederate states.

    During the Civil war, Maryland and Delaware were on the Union side, they were also slave states and they were slave states even AFTER the Civil War.

    The Civil War started in 1861, it wasnt until 1863 that Lincoln, who was loosing the war to this point, needed more soldiers to fight for the Union army. On January 1, 1863, Lincoln used that times version of E.O. and signed the Emancipation Proclamation. The Proclamation also ordered that "suitable" persons among those freed could be enrolled into the paid service of United States' forces, and ordered the Union Army (and all segments of the Executive branch) to "recognize and maintain the freedom of" the ex-slaves. The Proclamation did not compensate the owners, did not itself outlaw slavery, and did not make the ex-slaves (called freedmen) citizens. It made the eradication of slavery an explicit war goal.

    If it didnt become a "goal" until 2 years AFTER the war had started, how could it have been a reason the war started?
    If Maryland & Delaware were slave states fighting for the Union, and they kept their slaves during and after the war, how could it be about slavery?

    What did we learn here. By 1863 the Union was loosing the Civil War and it all but was certain that the Union was not going to be able to keep the country together. So Lincoln tapped into what the Confederacy was already doing, the Confederacy was offering freedom to its slaves if they fought in the war for the Confederates.

    Lincoln did not offer freedom to the slaves in its states to fight, rather chose to pay freed blacks to fight and adopted the goal of eradication of slavery...two years after the war had started.

    I can not say WHY they adopted this stance 2 years after the war had already started, that would kind of be like changing the reason for fighting WWII half way through it and then have people now believe thats why you went to war in the first place. My best guess as to why the switch half way through the war, propaganda to get freed blacks to enlist in the Union army to fight for their kin and to tap in on a heavy anti-slavery sentiment in the North.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    There are indeed personnel at the monuments.
    SOME of the monuments have a tour guide there, most do not. NONE have personnel there after hours and the monuments are still opened to the public.

    Nice try.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Did you even see it? Why don't you call them WW2 vets because that is what they were.
    Because it wasnt all WWII vets doing this, there were Vietnam Vets, Iraq & Afghanistan vets there too...one great interview was given by an Iraq Vet who lost his legs.

    A Vet is a Vet, they all deserve our respect and honor regardless of the wars they were sent to fight in. Granted, WWII was a more honorable war than the others.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Wait, WHAT. Are you seriously comparing this to Tiananmen Square? Where the Chinese government killed hundreds of civilians? Hyperbole much?
    In the fact that in both situations both governments sent in riot police to quell the protests against the government...yes.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You still have a problem with the word "closed" and you are asking me to defend it? Find a dictionary or something. Here's a hint: When something is closed there is no one allowed in. The "squatters" on Federal land have another home to go to or they couldn't have a cabin. It's the law.
    100's of 1,000's of people are not getting their paychecks and your beef is a few people got their vacations cut short. Tell Boehner to do his job and put the Senate bill up to a vote and pass a clean CR.
    How the hell do you "close" a statue?

    Oh my god, government is shut down, you are not allowed to even stop and look at a monument...your eyes will destroy it if you look at it. Get a grip.

    Keep defending what Pres. B.O.'s administration did. You look more the fool every time you type a word.
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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Sarah Palin was the Cn'C of the Alaska National Guard. As Cn'C she paid a visit to her troops in 2007 in Kuwait during the Iraq war. This was back when 99.9 % didn't even know who Palin was. Her son also served in the Army and did a tour in Iraq.

    Obama is suppose to be the Cn'C of our military and I didn't see him yesterday removing the barricades and carrying them over to his crib at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

    BTW. Saraha Palin was just not a better Cn'C than Obama, but Palin had higher approval ratings from the troops as Cn'C than Obama ever had.
    Sarah is just a publicity hog trying to keep her name in the news any way she can. She quit her job as Gov, so would that not be a case of a Cn'C abandoning "her troops"?

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    In the fact that in both situations both governments sent in riot police to quell the protests against the government...yes.
    Remember when Obama sent in the tanks, declared martial law, and mobilized 300,000 troops on the nation's capital, like China did then?

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by uncleray View Post
    Sarah is just a publicity hog trying to keep her name in the news any way she can. She quit her job as Gov, so would that not be a case of a Cn'C abandoning "her troops"?
    Yes, let the hate flow through you. Do you even know why she resigned as governor?
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