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Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial[W:793:1010:1190]

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A buddy of mine was there, thinking it was REALLY just some vets getting together, not some super right-wing protest. He left when he heard Palin say it was disgusting how the Democrats were using vets for political purposes, disgusted by the irony.
 
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Gardener said:
I don't mind conservatism as much as I do complete ignorance and reducing politics to little more than a child's game of Cowboys and Indians.

If people could come to realize that liberalism and conservatism are political ideologies rather than personal identities, they might be able to discuss politics more intelligently instead of all this simple-minded finger pointing. You can tell them all day that Nazis were extreme right and Stalinist Russia extreme left, try to explain to them that authoritarianism is a common component to both and try to lead them to an actual understanding of the political terms they bandy about, but all they know is "My guys good. Your guys bad".

It's the politics of children.
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I don't disagree with your general characterization of the population when it comes to political matters, or discerning differences. Hell, all one has to do is visit the myriad of "man on the street" interviews designed to mock these very people....But, I don't think that necessarily true for people that take the time to regularly visit, and post on boards like this. You have to admit that we are not the norm of society following politics today, the way we do.
 
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OldWorldOrder said:
A buddy of mine was there, thinking it was REALLY just some vets getting together, not some super right-wing protest. He left when he heard Palin say it was disgusting how the Democrats were using vets for political purposes, disgusted by the irony.
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Yeah, I was wondering when someone would notice that...
 
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rocket88 said:
Yeah, I was wondering when someone would notice that...
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Yeah, I don't think the guy isn't particularly liberal (or conservative) but he heard that and saw the signs and was like "wtf, this isn't vets protesting the idea that these monuments are closed down and saying this is a failure of the government, this is just a conservative rally that just happens to have some veterans in it, **** this noise".
 
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OldWorldOrder said:
Yeah, I don't think the guy isn't particularly liberal (or conservative) but he heard that and saw the signs and was like "wtf, this isn't vets protesting the idea that these monuments are closed down and saying this is a failure of the government, this is just a conservative rally that just happens to have some veterans in it, **** this noise".
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Why were they closed in the first place?
 
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j-mac said:
Why were they closed in the first place?
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Seems like there was some kind of government shutdown. Did you hear anything about it?
 
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OldWorldOrder said:
Seems like there was some kind of government shutdown. Did you hear anything about it?
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OH sure did, that shutdown that Obama, and Reid made happen by refusing to even talk? Yeah I think that was it....

Oh, and btw, out the last 18 shut downs, can you point to one where open air monuments were blocked off from the public?
 
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j-mac said:
OH sure did, that shutdown that Obama, and Reid made happen by refusing to even talk? Yeah I think that was it....
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So they made it happen and not any Republicans for refusing to pass a funding bill because they disagreed with a law already passed?

Oh, and btw, out the last 18 shut downs, can you point to one where open air monuments were blocked off from the public?
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I don't care enough to bother to look. We just all laughed at Palin talking about how bad it was to use vets politically while...using vets politically.

But, this is why Tea Partiers aren't popular.
 
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OldWorldOrder said:
So they made it happen and not any Republicans for refusing to pass a funding bill because they disagreed with a law already passed?
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So who has the power of the purse? Um....I think that is the House....Right?

I don't care enough to bother to look.
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Uh huh....I figured as much....

As for the rest, it is irrelevant...No one cares about your petty little slam against the TP....Plus I think you are underestimating them...Just watch.
 
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j-mac said:
So who has the power of the purse? Um....I think that is the House....Right?
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Sure. I wonder if you'd say the same thing if a Democratic house refused to fund a Republican-supported law that had been repeatedly upheld.

What do you think?

Uh huh....I figured as much....
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Then why did you ask?

As for the rest, it is irrelevant...No one cares about your petty little slam against the TP....Plus I think you are underestimating them...Just watch.
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Was it a slam? Or the truth? Are they popular or are they a laughingstock?

I'm watching, I'm seeing their demographics die out. I also saw Palin use vets for a political purpose while decrying others for doing it. Did you see that? Weird you didn't quote it. lol

God, ideologues and radicals are so silly, regardless of whether it's the hardcore liberals or the hardcore conservatives. So myopic.
 
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j-mac said:
Immediately in layman terms....I would say, Defense, Education, Ag, EPA, entitlements like medicare, etc...All can take a 1% haircut.
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I would too . . . unfortunately that is just a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny part of the One Cent Solution. That only accounts for $38-Bilion in cuts. Great, we go from spending $3.8-Trillion all the way down to $3.76-Trillion. Unless of course you want stop acting like capping spending at $561-Billion is not the real (highly unrealistic) plan (really, why do you keep ignoring this? It doesn't go away by trying to ignore its existence), and you don't get there by knocking 1% off of spending across the board.
 
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OldWorldOrder said:
Sure. I wonder if you'd say the same thing if a Democratic house refused to fund a Republican-supported law that had been repeatedly upheld.

What do you think?
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Oh, I see, so you think I would be saying the same in the inverse, so that makes it ok for you....You know when my children were 10 y/o they tried the same kind of logic once........once.

Was it a slam? Or the truth? Are they popular or are they a laughingstock?
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We will see in November 2014 won't we?

I'm watching, I'm seeing their demographics die out. I also saw Palin use vets for a political purpose while decrying others for doing it. Did you see that? Weird you didn't quote it. lol
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You are looking at it through highly skewed glasses. And I didn't quote it because it was so silly as to not warrant attribute.

God, ideologues and radicals are so silly, regardless of whether it's the hardcore liberals or the hardcore conservatives. So myopic.
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Don't be so hard on yourself.
 
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j-mac said:
Oh, I see, so you think I would be saying the same in the inverse, so that makes it ok for you....You know when my children were 10 y/o they tried the same kind of logic once........once.
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What? Try this again in English.

We will see in November 2014 won't we?
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lol sure?

You are looking at it through highly skewed glasses. And I didn't quote it because it was so silly as to not warrant attribute.
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Am I? How is it skewed? I'm not even a liberal. I would think perhaps you're the one with the bias here, as you identify as conservative.

Don't be so hard on yourself.
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loooooooooooooooool did you just assume I was a liberal because I'm making fun of conservatives? That's so cute. You're precious.
 
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DiavoTheMiavo said:
I would too . . . unfortunately that is just a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny part of the One Cent Solution. That only accounts for $38-Bilion in cuts. Great, we go from spending $3.8-Trillion all the way down to $3.76-Trillion. Unless of course you want stop acting like capping spending at $561-Billion is not the real (highly unrealistic) plan (really, why do you keep ignoring this? It doesn't go away by trying to ignore its existence), and you don't get there by knocking 1% off of spending across the board.
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I knew you might have been reading it wrong, and that led to a mis calculation in your figures...Here this may help....

The Mack Penny Plan would balance the federal budget in eight years by cutting one penny out of every federal dollar spent for six years and capping spending at 18% of GDP beginning in the seventh year. If Congress fails to make the necessary cuts, the plan triggers automatic, across-the-board cuts to meet the yearly caps.

- See more at: Penny Plan
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Any American who will sign onto this bit of phoniness with Palin and Cruz is final proof that racist hate for Obama is all that's wrong with your politics now. It's as phony and disingenuous as is Palin's death panels. Miserable lowlife cow!

Get over it.
 
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Kobie said:
Palin did say that you could see Russia from land in Alaska (which is technically true, although both vistas are desolate wastelands), and that somehow made her an expert on Russian affairs. Sarah Palin knows less about Russia than I do.

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My response is my signature.
 
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j-mac said:
I knew you might have been reading it wrong, and that led to a mis calculation in your figures...Here this may help....
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Yeah, but all along I said I have been using the numbers you supplied, and you just switched websites from the one earlier. Penny Plan and the One Cent Solution. They are similar, but not the same plans. One says GDP, the other says national income. One says 3-years, the other says 7-years, and I found even another one that says 5-years. It has been suggested many times under different names with different sponsors. So, now I am more confused than before. Because all of them only account 1% a year. 1st year, approximately $38-Billion in cuts. The next year we would knock approximately $37.62-Billion for a total of $75.62-Billion for two years. This one says GDP and makes the plan much more realistic, except I see no accounting for inflation and I still don't know how you cut a $1-trillion a year out of the budget without hurting . . . and that's only if we spend $3.8 or less a year over the next seven.

Lastly, it does call for some government getting cut more than others . . . not everyone is gonna be at 1%, but I would, like I said earlier, agree to the 1% thing right now, this very instant. We could always throw some of this other stuff against the wall to see if it sticks, as long as it doesn't hurt the economy, I am all for less spending.
 
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Kobie said:
Nobody to the left of anything fears anything from Sarah Palin. However, I will be damned if I'm going to watch her constantly lie her ass off and not call her on it.

Sarah Palin is living proof that an absolute know-nothing jackass can get elected to a governor's seat. She's accomplished literally nothing else.
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Not familiar with ad hom?

That's another tradition of the left, and their arguments seldom extend beyond that.
 
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Michael66 said:
Any American who will sign onto this bit of phoniness with Palin and Cruz is final proof that racist hate for Obama is all that's wrong with your politics now. It's as phony and disingenuous as is Palin's death panels. Miserable lowlife cow!

Get over it.
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Time to pull this roast out of the oven. Don't even need a fork to see that he's done.

The phony race card being played again by a leftist proving he's in way over his head.
 
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lol, I love watching liberals making sweeping generalizations of conservatives and conservatives make sweeping generalizations of liberals. If you're a zealot, you're part of the problem; it doesn't matter what "side" you're on.
 
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Hatuey said:
That's not what he said at all and you're being extremely disingenuous. However, what else are we to expect from you? I dare you to quote his posts. Dare you to show where he said conservatives are stromfront and not that some at stormfront are conservatives.
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You're right.

He said they identify with conservatives but then refused to offer up any evidence.
 
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OldWorldOrder said:
lol, I love watching liberals making sweeping generalizations of conservatives and conservatives make sweeping generalizations of liberals. If you're a zealot, you're part of the problem; it doesn't matter what "side" you're on.
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That's right. Instead of left and right (while ignoring the middle) it should be divided among those who want more government power and those who want less.
 
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Grant said:
You're right.

He said they identify with conservatives but then refused to offer up any evidence.
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I'm not exactly sure what the rules are on posting from hatesites, can I PM you what I have?
 
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OldWorldOrder said:
lol, I love watching liberals making sweeping generalizations of conservatives and conservatives make sweeping generalizations of liberals. If you're a zealot, you're part of the problem; it doesn't matter what "side" you're on.
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Don't try to give conservatives a bad name. Baggers are evil extremist racists and far from decent conservatives. Conservatives are merely misinformed greedy pigs, while baggers are irrational racists and haters.
 
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