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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    The senate doesn't fund the government the house of representatives does.
    Get it straight.
    Spending bills must originate in the House but must be passed in the Senate as well, and signed into law by the President, in order to take effect.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The President, and the senate don't get to hold the house hostage with a 'my way, or no way' strategy without blame.
    When the house asks for stupidly impossible things their stupidly impossible ideas get ignored. You would have to be impossibly stupid to not get that.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That doesn't change the fact that it was the Senate that shutdown the Govt. not the House. The House did their job and the Senate by failing to negotiate shutdown the govt.
    No. Bohner and the house KNEW that the Senate would never give what they asked for before it was sent.
    It's like asking your boss for a four month paid vacation and then blaming him for not negotiating when he fires you .

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Spending bills must originate in the House but must be passed in the Senate as well, and signed into law by the President, in order to take effect.
    The House passed a bill that was unacceptable to the Senate which means THEY failed at their job. There are 2 bodies in Congress. The House has been acting like they are the only one. Perhaps they need the civics course?

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The House passed a bill that was unacceptable to the Senate which means THEY failed at their job. There are 2 bodies in Congress.
    I made no claim about the viability of any particular bill. I only corrected a false statement regarding the process.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    You are really living in a false reality. The Cons put a poison pill in the CR and then complained no one would negotiate with them. You were once a business man. You know what a poison pill is and when its used. Its used when you want to say you made an offer, but really didn't make an offer. Sorry, you, I and 72% of other Americans knows the Cons own this one.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I made no claim about the viability of any particular bill. I only corrected a false statement regarding the process.
    So you agree that the House failed at their job and shut down the govt. 75% of the country does already.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    No. Bohner and the house KNEW that the Senate would never give what they asked for before it was sent.
    It's like asking your boss for a four month paid vacation and then blaming him for not negotiating when he fires you .
    How could anyone know that the Democrats would close down monuments or parks, or defund cancer for children, or not allow Pastors to speak. Could anyone have predicted that?Priest Banned from Saying Mass on Naval Base Sues Dept. of Defense - Christine Rousselle

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    So you agree that the House failed at their job and shut down the govt. 75% of the country does already.
    I don't think any of the participants has done his/her job.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It doesn't make a damn difference what the Republicans put in the bill, they did their job, they passed a spending bill that you claim put a poison pill in it for the Democrats. You see giving exemptions to campaign supporters is ok but requesting an exemption for the rest of America is wrong. No negotiations is what shutdown the govt. and that is entirely Harry Reid and Obama.
    Funny ...most of America don't see it that convoluted way. They see it as the cons trying to bully the president and holding the government hostage.

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