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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    maybe because raising the debt ceiling and keeping the government funding are part of the governments jobs.
    The government was funded by repubs in the house...Reid chose not to even bring the bills up...That is Senate demo's fault.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The government was funded by repubs in the house...Reid chose not to even bring the bills up...That is Senate demo's fault.
    and what about the conditions added to the house bills related to pieces of the affordable care act?

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    You are really living in a false reality. The Cons put a poison pill in the CR and then complained no one would negotiate with them. You were once a business man. You know what a poison pill is and when its used. Its used when you want to say you made an offer, but really didn't make an offer. Sorry, you, I and 72% of other Americans knows the Cons own this one.
    It doesn't make a damn difference what the Republicans put in the bill, they did their job, they passed a spending bill that you claim put a poison pill in it for the Democrats. You see giving exemptions to campaign supporters is ok but requesting an exemption for the rest of America is wrong. No negotiations is what shutdown the govt. and that is entirely Harry Reid and Obama.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i posted a news article " a my lai a day" which told about what was going on in the mekong delta.

    and that article brings up the biggest flaw in the u.s strategy in Vietnam, it relied too much on establishing a body count. the accusation being implied that the u.s armed forces were so focused in creating a high body count they killed civilians as well as enemy soldiers.
    Yes, the American people and there government were always on the wrong side during the Cold War. Oddly enough I discovered they were also wrong in Iraq, Nicaragua, Panama, and sundry other places where Communists and dictators were running amok.

    I support the US military and their allies, am aware that some things are inexcusable and people should be charged, but also look at who and what they have been fighting against.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, the American people and there government were always on the wrong side during the Cold War. Oddly enough I discovered they were also wrong in Iraq, Nicaragua, Panama, and sundry other places where Communists and dictators were running amok.

    I support the US military and their allies, am aware that some things are inexcusable and people should be charged, but also look at who and what they have been fighting against.
    some people who opposed the Vietnam war argued that the united states had no business getting involved in what some believed was a Vietnamese civil war. the funny thing is that we had no problem with certian dictatorships and their atrocities, Pinochet, as long as they did not support Communism.

    i don't justify a war that uses a body count of enemy's killed as a measure of success.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Then give us a reason besides a tantrum that led to the barricading of open air monuments (large statues) that never close any other time.
    Give us a reason other than a tantrum that led to the eviction of elderly senior citizens from their own private property.
    Give us a reason other than a tantrum that led to the public roads being barricaded so you couldnt pull over to see Mt. Rushmore...from 10 mile away.

    Make is as uncomfortable as possible, inconvenience everyone and blame it on the Republican shut down. It cost more money to barricade those monuments, roads etc than it costs when those things are open.

    Where is the common sense in that?
    First of al it IS the Republicans fault that the govt. shutdown. 75% of Americans agree on that. A Govt. shutdown always includes closing of monuments and parks bacause park personnel are laid off. What about the word "closed" is confusing to you? Closed means not open for visitors. Not "come right in there's no one to watch if you are here to deface something." Got it?

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    LOL. That is funny.

    When I was growing up in the N.E., I had always been taught that the Confederate flag was a racist flag then I moved down south and realized it stood for freedom and independence and states rights. Heck, even some black families down here fly the Confederate flag. When I first saw that I was shocked to say the least.

    Its interesting how people are taught to believe one thing in contrary to the truth.
    Oh yeah ...black people LOOOOOVE the confederate flag ...the flag that the traitorous swine of the south fought under to keep them enslaved. You have been lied to and you are lying right now.
    Anyone flying those colors is a traitor AND a racist swine.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That doesn't change the fact that it was the Senate that shutdown the Govt. not the House. The House did their job and the Senate by failing to negotiate shutdown the govt.
    The fact is, Republicans have admitted it was their plan to shut down the government all along.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    For better or worse, that's what grass roots political engagement looks like. Similarly offensive photo opportunities were created by lefties protesting GWB, and by OWS. It's the nature of the beast.
    Ugly though it may have been, there was no racism when the left protested.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Cruz had nothing to do with the barricading of statues, that was ole Pres. B.O. throwing a temper tantrum.
    Cruz had EVERYTHING to do with the closing of the US government AND the monuments. This was his doing ...he OWNS it.

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