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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    If you insist.

    It's difficult to find many sources for debunking this idiotic rumor because it gained so little traction among even the fringe of the "mainstream media," most likely because it's so absurd as to defy all logic (doesn't stop APACHERAT from believing it), but here's another one who takes a stab at it:

    U.S. Marines in Inaugural Parade Ordered to Disarm-Under Investigation!
    I don't have a dog in the fight about the story per se. I simply don't care. I just found that particular source to be below even minimal standards.
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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I don't have a dog in the fight about the story per se. I simply don't care. I just found that particular source to be below even minimal standards.
    That's nice.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    And these are just bald-faced lies. You're sinking quick here.
    No, what he says is true. You've already demonstrated yourself as a liar in your false quote about Ben Carson.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    PALIN'S ALASKAN SEPARATIST GROUP HATES AMERICA - CNN iReport

    A quote from the AIP founder...
    "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government," Vogler said in the interview, in which he talked extensively about his desire for Alaskan secession, the key goal of the AIP. "And I won't be buried under their damn flag," Vogler continued in the interview, which also touched on his disappointment with the American judicial system. "I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."
    What does a fellow called Vogler have to do with this thread?

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, what he says is true. You've already demonstrated yourself as a liar in your false quote about Ben Carson.
    Beg pardon?

    And no, what he says re:Kerry is not true.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Not a source I would cite.

    Veterans Today - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Veterans Today lists as its editorial board of directors former members of the U.S. military Gordon Duff (senior editor and chairman of the board), Major Bobby ...

    The Anti-Defamation League characterizes Gordon Duff, the VT senior editor and chairman of the board, as a "anti-Semitic conspiracist." In a July 2010 essay on VT, Duff asserted that the "five dancing Israelis" arrested on 9/11 were part of a "team of Israeli intelligence agents" who remotely guided the planes into the World Trade Center with the knowledge of "top members of America's military." He added that America's security continues to be threatened "by a nefarious and disloyal group of Americans who have dual U.S./Israeli citizenship and who control government organizations and private companies." In a separate piece, he wrote that "the Israeli lobby" is "the most powerful and ruthless group in the world."[3] The Southern Poverty Law Center also writes that Veterans Today propagates conspiracies about Israel orchestrating the September 11 attacks as well as about Holocaust Denial.[4] Journalist Arnaud de Borchgrave described Gordon Duff in 2010 as "a 100 percent disabled Marine Vietnam veteran [who] states flatly that Sept. 11, 2001, was a CIA-Mossad conspiracy and that Osama bin Laden was not involved and died in 2001" and that audio and video recordings aired by Al-Jazeera after the attack were "Clever Israeli forgeries."[23]
    Two columnists for the National Post have criticized Veterans Today for publishing an article which they claimed "verges into Holocaust denial." The article, written by VT columnist J. Bruce Campbell in May 2011, states that:
    “The holy gas chamber is a fake. Which makes the entire Holocaust story a fake. You can study it for a day or for a lifetime and your conclusion will be the same. There was never a plan for exterminating Jews and there was never an instrument. As Professor Robert Faurisson has asked for years, ‘Show me a gas chamber. Draw for me a gas chamber.’ It can’t be done because there was never such a thing.”
    The author also writes that “the main purpose of keeping alive the Holocaust is to protect Jewish banking practices.”[24][25][26]
    According to the Anti-Defamation League, Veterans Today has promulgated the conspiracy theory that Israel orchestrated WikiLeaks as a public relations campaign. Gordon Duff has charged Julian Assange with cooperating with Israeli intelligence,[27] and in an interview with the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, he said that "WikiLeaks is obviously concocted by an intelligence agency. It's a ham-handed action by Israel to do its public relations."[28]
    In September 2011, the University of Lethbridge initially congratulated a student, Josh Blakeney, for becoming a writer for VT shortly after his graduation. In response to subsequent criticism, the Dean of Graduate Studies, Dr. Robert Wood, stated that the congratulatory note was the result of an “administrative oversight" and added that "In my capacity as Dean of Graduate Studies, I unequivocally retract this congratulatory note." Dr. Wood also criticized Veterans Today, stating that "The anti-Semitic content that is periodically published in Veterans Today is morally repugnant, and it deeply offends the core principles of tolerance, respect, and citizenship upon which the University of Lethbridge is founded."[29][30][31]
    Veteran's Today financial editor Michael Harris was criticized for asserting in an interview on Press TV that December 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was a "revenge killing" by Israel. The Anti-Defamation League responded stating "Veterans Today is known for promulgating some of the most outrageous anti-Israel and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories."[32] Harris also alleged that Israeli "death squads" were responsible for the 2011 Tucson shooting, 2011 Norway attacks and 2012 Aurora shooting and that the "Jewish-owned and Jewish-controlled" Hollywood was responsible for perpetuating a "culture of violence" within the United States.[33] A Washington Post story on the interviews notes that Harris "publicly associates with neo-Nazi groups".[34][35] The SPLC stated that Harris' comments indicated that VT "is now squarely in neo-Nazi territory."[36]
    That seems like a credible leftist source.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Setting the 10th grade science teacher on fire beats my blowing up the garage at home with the chemistry set I got for Christmas when I was only 11 years old.
    Dude, it was an accident. I was in lab working with a Bunsen burner when a broken seat pinched my butt, I jerked back dumping the contents & the lit burner on his shirt.

    It made the local news. The fire department was there and an ambulance. A big thing over a shirt with a burn hole in it. I had bigger burn holes from dropped joints in HS than that was. But I got thrown out of his class for it.

    I guess I shouldnt have laughed so damn hard, but it was funny watching him flail his arm all over the place screaming.
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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Beg pardon?

    And no, what he says re:Kerry is not true.
    'Ben Carson Compares Homosexuality to Bestiality and Pedophilia' was the headline you quoted and yes, it is true about Kerry..

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Please provide sources for your right-wing drivel.
    There has already been numerous post and even a thread on the DP Military Forum covering this topic.

    Go to the military forums and resurrect the threads.

    But you really had to search to find some loony veterans group to support your opinion.

    I like many went through the photo archives of every Presidential Inauguration since Woodward Wilson and couldn't find any member of the U.S. military who had the bolts removed from their rifles.

    I'm sure while you were frantically goggling you came across.
    >" "Apparently Obama's Secret Service doesn't trust the USMC. Simply searching each guy to make sure he didn't have a live round hidden on him wasn't enough, they had to make sure the guns were inoperable.

    Obama doesn't trust the very men who put their lives on the line to serve their country. I guess it shouldn't be that much of a shock. Untrustworthy people find it very difficult to believe that other men have honor.">

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Dude, it was an accident. I was in lab working with a Bunsen burner when a broken seat pinched my butt, I jerked back dumping the contents & the lit burner on his shirt.

    It made the local news. The fire department was there and an ambulance. A big thing over a shirt with a burn hole in it. I had bigger burn holes from dropped joints in HS than that was. But I got thrown out of his class for it.

    I guess I shouldnt have laughed so damn hard, but it was funny watching him flail his arm all over the place screaming.
    I'm surprised that high school science teachers don't receive hazardous duty pay.

    I've heard of scores of such stories in my lifetime.

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