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Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial[W:793:1010:1190]

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Buck Ewer said:
The senate doesn't fund the government the house of representatives does.
Get it straight.
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Spending bills must originate in the House but must be passed in the Senate as well, and signed into law by the President, in order to take effect.:peace
 
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j-mac said:
The President, and the senate don't get to hold the house hostage with a 'my way, or no way' strategy without blame.
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When the house asks for stupidly impossible things their stupidly impossible ideas get ignored. You would have to be impossibly stupid to not get that.
 
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Conservative said:
That doesn't change the fact that it was the Senate that shutdown the Govt. not the House. The House did their job and the Senate by failing to negotiate shutdown the govt.
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No. Bohner and the house KNEW that the Senate would never give what they asked for before it was sent.
It's like asking your boss for a four month paid vacation and then blaming him for not negotiating when he fires you .:lamo
 
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Jack Hays said:
Spending bills must originate in the House but must be passed in the Senate as well, and signed into law by the President, in order to take effect.:peace
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The House passed a bill that was unacceptable to the Senate which means THEY failed at their job. There are 2 bodies in Congress. The House has been acting like they are the only one. Perhaps they need the civics course?
 
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iguanaman said:
The House passed a bill that was unacceptable to the Senate which means THEY failed at their job. There are 2 bodies in Congress.
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I made no claim about the viability of any particular bill. I only corrected a false statement regarding the process.:peace
 
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upsideguy said:
You are really living in a false reality. The Cons put a poison pill in the CR and then complained no one would negotiate with them. You were once a business man. You know what a poison pill is and when its used. Its used when you want to say you made an offer, but really didn't make an offer. Sorry, you, I and 72% of other Americans knows the Cons own this one.
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:applaud
 
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Jack Hays said:
I made no claim about the viability of any particular bill. I only corrected a false statement regarding the process.:peace
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So you agree that the House failed at their job and shut down the govt. 75% of the country does already.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
No. Bohner and the house KNEW that the Senate would never give what they asked for before it was sent.
It's like asking your boss for a four month paid vacation and then blaming him for not negotiating when he fires you .:lamo
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How could anyone know that the Democrats would close down monuments or parks, or defund cancer for children, or not allow Pastors to speak. Could anyone have predicted that?Priest Banned from Saying Mass on Naval Base Sues Dept. of Defense - Christine Rousselle
 
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iguanaman said:
So you agree that the House failed at their job and shut down the govt. 75% of the country does already.
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I don't think any of the participants has done his/her job.:peace
 
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Conservative said:
It doesn't make a damn difference what the Republicans put in the bill, they did their job, they passed a spending bill that you claim put a poison pill in it for the Democrats. You see giving exemptions to campaign supporters is ok but requesting an exemption for the rest of America is wrong. No negotiations is what shutdown the govt. and that is entirely Harry Reid and Obama.
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Funny ...most of America don't see it that convoluted way. They see it as the cons trying to bully the president and holding the government hostage.:lamo
 
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Conservative said:
And that just goes to show the power of the press which also shows up every day in your posts. Exactly what did the Republicans do to shutdown the govt, their job !!
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The republicons announced that they were going to shut down the government in advance.
They shut it down as promised and reveled in their dastardly deed when they did.
The GOP owns this one by their own words.:lamo
 
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Buck Ewer said:
The profoundly stupid Mrs Palin is the joke of your party.
Her mindless rants and exhibitions of stupidity are an endless source of humor.
...and now for some fancy pageant walkin'
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But you feel you're sufficiently intelligent to judge Sarah Palin? PJTV: Bill Whittle on the Sarah Palin Haters - YouTube

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Conservative said:
The Republicans submitted legislation to fund the govt. the Senate rejected it and shut the govt. down. Keep buying the media and leftwing spin.
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They accepted the numbers ...they rejected the ridiculous conditions.
Who is spinning now?:spin:
 
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polgara said:
Could I buy a half dozen of each? If I'm going to be able to make a fair comparison, I really should try both!

You have no idea how difficult it was for me to limit the magic ones to only six, but people expect an honest, unbiased opinion!
:mrgreen:

Eagerly awaiting delivery at your earliest convenience! :thumbs:
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Shoot. NE Ohio is just slightly out of my delivery range. I guess I could overnight your order.

Brownie freshness is a priority.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
The republicons announced that they were going to shut down the government in advance.
They shut it down as promised and reveled in their dastardly deed when they did.
The GOP owns this one by their own words.:lamo
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But the government is not 'shut down'. The President and his czars have decided to close certain areas of government, or slow it down, in places here they feel it will be most obvious and cause the most annoyance.

Most of the American people will soon catch on.
 
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apdst said:
The only argument that Libbos can ever make.
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Like the man said ..." ya can't fix stupid"
What else is there to do but laugh?
Un-huh... you betcha... wink wink
 
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Grant said:
But the government is not 'shut down'. The President and his czars have decided to close certain areas of government, or slow it down, in places here they feel it will be most obvious and cause the most annoyance.

Most of the American people will soon catch on.
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the national park service was one of the areas to be affected by a government shutdown

here is how they planned to handle things in case a shutdown happened

http://www.doi.gov/shutdown/fy2014/upload/NPS-FAQ.pdf

http://www.doi.gov/shutdown/fy2014/upload/NPS-contingency-plan.pdf
 
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Conservative said:
That doesn't change the fact that it was the Senate that shutdown the Govt. not the House. The House did their job and the Senate by failing to negotiate shutdown the govt.
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Every time, it went back without the poison pill. The House didn't consider it without.

I know you're incapable of blaming the GOP for anything, but I think there's enough blame to be spread around. The message to the voters should be "Don't vote for the incumbents, as they can't do their job."
 
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Jack Hays said:
I feel so much better now.

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That's actually not racist. I know they had the temerity to criticize your boy, but that's not racist.
 
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Jack Hays said:
Spending bills must originate in the House but must be passed in the Senate as well, and signed into law by the President, in order to take effect.:peace
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Yes of course ...and when they ask for the stupidly impossible they know it will not be considered. The GOP planned the shut down and announced it weeks in advance.
 
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rocket88 said:
That's actually not racist. I know they had the temerity to criticize your boy, but that's not racist.
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I did not claim it was racist. My claim was only that GWB was treated as badly as BHO.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Yes of course ...and when they ask for the stupidly impossible they know it will not be considered. The GOP planned the shut down and announced it weeks in advance.
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That may well all be true. I'm not in the business of defending the Repubs, only keeping the facts straight.
 
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