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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Seriously, you went to the link and could not find the "methods" section? That's sad!

    Here comes the airplane....open wide....!

    PLOS ONE: Race, Ideology, and the Tea Party: A Longitudinal Study

    Thanks, I'm on my phone, so I appreciate you posting it...I'll read it and get back to you.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Seriously, you went to the link and could not find the "methods" section? That's sad!

    Here comes the airplane....open wide....!

    PLOS ONE: Race, Ideology, and the Tea Party: A Longitudinal Study
    I guess as long as you can bring race into the discussion you can continue to divert from the Obama record. Wonder what it is about Obama that generates this kind of support? The Obama record is doing much more harm to this country than the liberal hatchet job on T.E.A. Party members and claiming racism. It is the Obama record that is burying our economy not claims of racism for the T.E.A. party.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Seriously, you went to the link and could not find the "methods" section? That's sad!

    Here comes the airplane....open wide....!

    PLOS ONE: Race, Ideology, and the Tea Party: A Longitudinal Study

    If I am reading this right, and I may not be, there were 312 initial participants, 250 did all three parts, and 13 self described TP supporters. Based on that you paint the entire bunch?
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If I am reading this right, and I may not be, there were 312 initial participants, 250 did all three parts, and 13 self described TP supporters. Based on that you paint the entire bunch?
    Bingo. It's hoo-hah.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If I am reading this right, and I may not be, there were 312 initial participants, 250 did all three parts, and 13 self described TP supporters. Based on that you paint the entire bunch?
    Your suspicions are correct, you did not read the spoon-fed link correctly (no surprise!!).

    Time for another aeroplaneeee...open wideeee!!

    Only 13 participants reported having gone to a rally or meeting at any point in the study; therefore, we did not attempt to analyze attendance as a separate dependent variable. Instead, we reasoned that having attended a meeting or rally represents the highest level of willingness to participate in the Tea Party, and thus retained 6 as the maximum score possible on the item. The support and participation willingness items formed a reliable scale at Time 1 (α = .91), Time 2 (α = .92), and Time 3 (α = .92). For the analyses, scores on these two items were transformed such that both ranged from 0 to 4, and the mean was calculated for each time point. If the Tea Party support item is dichotomized around the midpoint to create supporter and nonsupporter categories, we find that 25% of our participants were Tea Party supporters. This is compared to 18% in a representative sample collected by the New York Times in early April 2010 [8].


    So, I would guess....and mind you I am no expert on such things.....that the "13" that were considered "highest willingness to participate in the TP".....were part of the 25% of the 250 that finished the survey (which would be @ 63...but again, I am not an expert on such advanced calculations).

    Now I suppose the next argument is going to be the one about how statistical analysis of data sets is not perfect...YADDA YADDA YADDA......and as we have seen, I'm absolutely POSITIVE that your views on such matters is TOP NOTCH......considering how you were able to find the data IN THE FIRST PLACE.....and further backed up by your IMPRESSIVE MATH SKILLS.

    But then again.....I might be wrong....because....you know....I am not the expert here.


    Oh...ps..."boo-yeah".....or something like that....whateverthatmeans.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Your suspicions are correct, you did not read the spoon-fed link correctly (no surprise!!).

    Time for another aeroplaneeee...open wideeee!!

    Only 13 participants reported having gone to a rally or meeting at any point in the study; therefore, we did not attempt to analyze attendance as a separate dependent variable. Instead, we reasoned that having attended a meeting or rally represents the highest level of willingness to participate in the Tea Party, and thus retained 6 as the maximum score possible on the item. The support and participation willingness items formed a reliable scale at Time 1 (α = .91), Time 2 (α = .92), and Time 3 (α = .92). For the analyses, scores on these two items were transformed such that both ranged from 0 to 4, and the mean was calculated for each time point. If the Tea Party support item is dichotomized around the midpoint to create supporter and nonsupporter categories, we find that 25% of our participants were Tea Party supporters. This is compared to 18% in a representative sample collected by the New York Times in early April 2010 [8].


    So, I would guess....and mind you I am no expert on such things.....that the "13" that were considered "highest willingness to participate in the TP".....were part of the 25% of the 250 that finished the survey (which would be @ 63...but again, I am not an expert on such advanced calculations).

    Now I suppose the next argument is going to be the one about how statistical analysis of data sets is not perfect...YADDA YADDA YADDA......and as we have seen, I'm absolutely POSITIVE that your views on such matters is TOP NOTCH......considering how you were able to find the data IN THE FIRST PLACE.....and further backed up by your IMPRESSIVE MATH SKILLS.

    But then again.....I might be wrong....because....you know....I am not the expert here.


    Oh...ps..."boo-yeah".....or something like that....whateverthatmeans.
    Nor am I, but that is quite the angry rant aimed at me for someone who just threw that smear job labeled as a study.

    You know what gets me? Is how you progressives crow how the TP is dead, how it's irrelevant, how it's insignificant. Yet, you will contort yourself into a pretzel to generalize everyone as a part of it that doesn't agree with you, and immediately label them as racists because you find some group of leftist, probably communist paper put forth by fellow travelers.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nor am I, but that is quite the angry rant aimed at me for someone who just threw that smear job labeled as a study.


    You know what gets me? Is how you progressives crow how the TP is dead, how it's irrelevant, how it's insignificant. Yet, you will contort yourself into a pretzel to generalize everyone as a part of it that doesn't agree with you, and immediately label them as racists because you find some group of leftist, probably communist paper put forth by fellow travelers.
    LOL....Whaa...?
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post




    LOL....Whaa...?
    Thanks for admitting your sham. Now we can move on from your false, inflammatory claim that the TP is racist.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    4 out of 5 moose approve of Sarah Palin...




    ... as if she ever made a serious decision in her 1+ years in 'state' government......Most people have no problem with their park ranger.

    Sorry, serious people do not take this woman seriously....
    And yet she keeps getting talked about. Why is that?
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by mperry View Post
    And yet she keeps getting talked about. Why is that?
    Why? because she is a threat to the liberal agenda!!

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