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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Palin and Cruz both photographed in front of an Oath Keepers flag.

    For those of you who aren't familiar, this means neither will ever run for president. Sorry if some of you were hopeful.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    APACHERAT has a tendency to post blatant and already-debunked lies about Obama, with no attribution, pretty much every time he posts.

    “Disarmed Marines” at Inauguration Debunked | Veterans Today

    The "disarmed Marines" story, just like all these other crackpot right-wing conspiracy theories about Obama, is a lie.


    You should take the time to research who your going to use as a source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    You should take the time to research who your going to use as a source.
    I'm not familiar with Veterans Today. (never even heard of this publication before now) Can you elaborate?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    You should take the time to research who your going to use as a source.
    You are the one who posted a blatant lie; this site thoroughly debunks it. Sorry I'm not sorry for raining on your lie parade.

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    I'm not familiar with Veterans Today. (never even heard of this publication before now) Can you elaborate?
    He's got nothing. The source is fine.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I'm not familiar with Veterans Today. (never even heard of this publication before now) Can you elaborate?
    Not a source I would cite.

    Veterans Today - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Veterans Today lists as its editorial board of directors former members of the U.S. military Gordon Duff (senior editor and chairman of the board), Major Bobby ...

    The Anti-Defamation League characterizes Gordon Duff, the VT senior editor and chairman of the board, as a "anti-Semitic conspiracist." In a July 2010 essay on VT, Duff asserted that the "five dancing Israelis" arrested on 9/11 were part of a "team of Israeli intelligence agents" who remotely guided the planes into the World Trade Center with the knowledge of "top members of America's military." He added that America's security continues to be threatened "by a nefarious and disloyal group of Americans who have dual U.S./Israeli citizenship and who control government organizations and private companies." In a separate piece, he wrote that "the Israeli lobby" is "the most powerful and ruthless group in the world."[3] The Southern Poverty Law Center also writes that Veterans Today propagates conspiracies about Israel orchestrating the September 11 attacks as well as about Holocaust Denial.[4] Journalist Arnaud de Borchgrave described Gordon Duff in 2010 as "a 100 percent disabled Marine Vietnam veteran [who] states flatly that Sept. 11, 2001, was a CIA-Mossad conspiracy and that Osama bin Laden was not involved and died in 2001" and that audio and video recordings aired by Al-Jazeera after the attack were "Clever Israeli forgeries."[23]
    Two columnists for the National Post have criticized Veterans Today for publishing an article which they claimed "verges into Holocaust denial." The article, written by VT columnist J. Bruce Campbell in May 2011, states that:
    “The holy gas chamber is a fake. Which makes the entire Holocaust story a fake. You can study it for a day or for a lifetime and your conclusion will be the same. There was never a plan for exterminating Jews and there was never an instrument. As Professor Robert Faurisson has asked for years, ‘Show me a gas chamber. Draw for me a gas chamber.’ It can’t be done because there was never such a thing.”
    The author also writes that “the main purpose of keeping alive the Holocaust is to protect Jewish banking practices.”[24][25][26]
    According to the Anti-Defamation League, Veterans Today has promulgated the conspiracy theory that Israel orchestrated WikiLeaks as a public relations campaign. Gordon Duff has charged Julian Assange with cooperating with Israeli intelligence,[27] and in an interview with the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, he said that "WikiLeaks is obviously concocted by an intelligence agency. It's a ham-handed action by Israel to do its public relations."[28]
    In September 2011, the University of Lethbridge initially congratulated a student, Josh Blakeney, for becoming a writer for VT shortly after his graduation. In response to subsequent criticism, the Dean of Graduate Studies, Dr. Robert Wood, stated that the congratulatory note was the result of an “administrative oversight" and added that "In my capacity as Dean of Graduate Studies, I unequivocally retract this congratulatory note." Dr. Wood also criticized Veterans Today, stating that "The anti-Semitic content that is periodically published in Veterans Today is morally repugnant, and it deeply offends the core principles of tolerance, respect, and citizenship upon which the University of Lethbridge is founded."[29][30][31]
    Veteran's Today financial editor Michael Harris was criticized for asserting in an interview on Press TV that December 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was a "revenge killing" by Israel. The Anti-Defamation League responded stating "Veterans Today is known for promulgating some of the most outrageous anti-Israel and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories."[32] Harris also alleged that Israeli "death squads" were responsible for the 2011 Tucson shooting, 2011 Norway attacks and 2012 Aurora shooting and that the "Jewish-owned and Jewish-controlled" Hollywood was responsible for perpetuating a "culture of violence" within the United States.[33] A Washington Post story on the interviews notes that Harris "publicly associates with neo-Nazi groups".[34][35] The SPLC stated that Harris' comments indicated that VT "is now squarely in neo-Nazi territory."[36]
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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    If you actually read the article, rather than run screaming from the name of the site, you'll find information that debunks APACHERAT's lie.

    It's not an opinion piece, for crying out loud, it's simply stating facts -- that the Secret Service has a longstanding policy that ALL military/police/other participants in the inauguration do not carrying functioning weaponry.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    If you actually read the article, rather than run screaming from the name of the site, you'll find information that debunks APACHERAT's lie.

    It's not an opinion piece, for crying out loud, it's simply stating facts -- that the Secret Service has a longstanding policy that ALL military/police/other participants in the inauguration do not carrying functioning weaponry.
    Doesn't look like that site has anything other than opinion pieces.
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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You are the one who posted a blatant lie; this site thoroughly debunks it. Sorry I'm not sorry for raining on your lie parade.



    He's got nothing. The source is fine.
    All photos of the Marines show the bolts were removed from their rifles.

    There are just too many tens of thousands of Marines and soldiers who have been ordered to turn in their rifles to the armory any time Obama showed up for a photo-ops on military installations.

    Even a few weeks ago it was revealed that why the Marines at the Washington Marine Barracks didn't respond to the shooting at the Washington DC Navy Yard was because they had no ammunition for their rifles.

    What's next, gun free zones on military bases ?

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    If you actually read the article, rather than run screaming from the name of the site, you'll find information that debunks APACHERAT's lie.

    It's not an opinion piece, for crying out loud, it's simply stating facts -- that the Secret Service has a longstanding policy that ALL military/police/other participants in the inauguration do not carrying functioning weaponry.
    He has an email supposedly from a Secret Service spokesperson stating as such. And I don't doubt for a moment that this is true, it seems like a totally logical policy for the Secret Service to have. **** goes wrong, you want the trained professionals who are in on the whole security apparatus responding. Having random soldiers decide to play hero is a recipe for friendly fire.

    However, I can see why someone would question a simple bit of text from somebody like this. The credibility of a holocaust denier is damaged to the point where believing they'd fabricate an email like this is not an unreasonable thought.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Doesn't look like that site has anything other than opinion pieces.
    Did you read the article I posted? Yes or no.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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