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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Your quacking never seems to cease, Michael. Why not give it a rest?

    You're only speaking fr yourself here, btw.
    No, there have been others voicing their suspicions that Jack is a bagger. If every bit of his agenda is in sync with baggerism then don't you have to wonder why he isn't honest about supporting it? Maybe you and I should challenge him to show us one aspect in which he disagrees with the bagger ideology?

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    No, racism exists on all sides of the political spectrum. And most likely you will find your kooks on all sides too.
    As for Palin though, you won't have to concern yourself about voting for her ever again. She's chosen to be a media sideshow as is Glenn Beck. She knows she is incapable of a political debate with any politician, one on one and that's why you won't ever see her try.

    Your lack of respect for me is mutual. Only mine goes so far as to complete disdain for the political hatefest of racism that has engulfed your country ever since Obama took over. People on the outside are not fooled one bit about what it's all about. You can take that to the bank!
    Good, then we have a mutual disrespect for each other, keep whining and complaining about the outcome and doing nothing about it. Anytime someone disagrees with you it is racism. You and others will never get it, it isn't racism to be against policies but it is easy to claim racism to divert from the policies implemented.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Good, then we have a mutual disrespect for each other, keep whining and complaining about the outcome and doing nothing about it. Anytime someone disagrees with you it is racism. You and others will never get it, it isn't racism to be against policies but it is easy to claim racism to divert from the policies implemented.
    My original claim with Jack was that there is a racist element within the bagger party, non-party, whatever they want to call themselves. Jack has agreed with that but only after first disagreeing. Go back and find the applicable posts if you doubt me.

    Jack used an example of NAMBLA being supported by Democrats didn't make them pedophiles. I agreed that was true but I tolk him that in the case of the tea baggers, they haven't in any way shown that they desire to distance themselves from racism. In fact, it's so prevalent in their street demonstration that one could mistake them for Klan members out of costume.

    Baggerism was born out of libertarianism and that's a point that Jack made and I agree with. The resurgence in baggerism has been completely because of Obama and it's the racist element that has found sympathy from the ranks of libertarians. Rand Paul being one of the foremost of course. That's not saying that all libertarians are racists but they need to be scrutinized carefully because many will let their guards down in the heat of passionate debate. And many baggers just don't even try to hide it!

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    My original claim with Jack was that there is a racist element within the bagger party, non-party, whatever they want to call themselves. Jack has agreed with that but only after first disagreeing. Go back and find the applicable posts if you doubt me.

    Jack used an example of NAMBLA being supported by Democrats didn't make them pedophiles. I agreed that was true but I tolk him that in the case of the tea baggers, they haven't in any way shown that they desire to distance themselves from racism. In fact, it's so prevalent in their street demonstration that one could mistake them for Klan members out of costume.

    Baggerism was born out of libertarianism and that's a point that Jack made and I agree with. The resurgence in baggerism has been completely because of Obama and it's the racist element that has found sympathy from the ranks of libertarians. Rand Paul being one of the foremost of course. That's not saying that all libertarians are racists but they need to be scrutinized carefully because many will let their guards down in the heat of passionate debate. And many baggers just don't even try to hide it!
    The resurgence of "baggerism" as you call it couldn't have anything to do with the 6.4 trillion added to the debt, 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers, stagnant economic growth, and massive dependence being created. Of course not thus it has to be classified as racism. T.E.A. stands for Taxed Enough Already so any time you want to talk about the issues I will be happy to respond but not anymore to diversions and your personal opinions about racism. Cries of racism is a typical liberal ploy to appeal to emotions and divert from reality. I am not going to let that happen.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The resurgence of "baggerism" as you call it couldn't have anything to do with the 6.4 trillion added to the debt, 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers, stagnant economic growth, and massive dependence being created. Of course not thus it has to be classified as racism. T.E.A. stands for Taxed Enough Already so any time you want to talk about the issues I will be happy to respond but not anymore to diversions and your personal opinions about racism. Cries of racism is a typical liberal ploy to appeal to emotions and divert from reality. I am not going to let that happen.
    Well then I guess we won't discuss, because I will continue to make the claim that racism is indeed behind the large majority of your country's problems. The disjointed negativism of your GOP has been mainly caused by the bagger influence. That has been largely successful because of the baggers putting up primary challenges to mainstream Repubs who have just recently shown that they need to put an end to it before it destroys the GOP brand.

    Your country's problems nearly all are contributable to GOP negativism and contrariness toward Obama. In a close and careful analysis, it is evident that no specific charge can be levelled at Obama but instead innuendo which remains unspecific. Obama is opposed because he's a black president. And in fact, even as he regrettably accepts Republican policy as is plainly evident with his health care initiative which is a carbon copy of Republican wishes with Romney care, the baggers still are controlling the GOP in opposing him. No amount of Obama's compromising will make it any better. The die has been cast and that is to destroy him.

    In a nutshell, the bagger movement is destroying your country's economy and preventing any kind of real economic recovery. The recent failure of the bagger efforts with Cruz is substantial proof of where the problem lies.

    American counterspin is only partially effective within your country. The rest of the world isn't fooled.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    So???
    Byrd was cut from the exact same cloth as Helms was. And yet plenty of dems lionized him on a daily basis. Heck, he was a grand whatever of the KKK at one time.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    Well then I guess we won't discuss, because I will continue to make the claim that racism is indeed behind the large majority of your country's problems. The disjointed negativism of your GOP has been mainly caused by the bagger influence. That has been largely successful because of the baggers putting up primary challenges to mainstream Repubs who have just recently shown that they need to put an end to it before it destroys the GOP brand.

    Your country's problems nearly all are contributable to GOP negativism and contrariness toward Obama. In a close and careful analysis, it is evident that no specific charge can be levelled at Obama but instead innuendo which remains unspecific. Obama is opposed because he's a black president. And in fact, even as he regrettably accepts Republican policy as is plainly evident with his health care initiative which is a carbon copy of Republican wishes with Romney care, the baggers still are controlling the GOP in opposing him. No amount of Obama's compromising will make it any better. The die has been cast and that is to destroy him.

    In a nutshell, the bagger movement is destroying your country's economy and preventing any kind of real economic recovery. The recent failure of the bagger efforts with Cruz is substantial proof of where the problem lies.

    American counterspin is only partially effective within your country. The rest of the world isn't fooled.
    Your opinion noted and in this country allowed no matter how foolish it is. My country has a serious problem and that problem is people like you who ignore results and cry racism buying the rhetoric and ignoring the reality

    Obama's results are the issue not racism at least for me. It does seem that neither you or others like you calling the attacks on Obama racism have any idea what leadership is all about. Nor do people like you understand personal responsibility and that in this country we have 50 sovereign states that have the ability to do what you seem to think is necessary. It is obvious that you really know little about this country but buy what you are told. A little research would show you how little you really do know.

    I posted the Obama results, you ignored them. You continue to claim it is the "bagger" movement that is destroying our economy but cannot show how thus it is just another poorly informed opinion on your part. So in case you missed it and obviously you did, Romneycare was a state program, Obamacare is national and you don't implement successfully a national program in 50 sovereign states, with the geography of this country, and 312 million people especially as it relates to personal responsibility issues.

    I certainly understand why people from other countries want ours to be more like theirs because the true nature of liberalism is to spread liberal misery equally to everyone else. Have you ever seen a happy liberal, someone who doesn't have anything to complain about?

    Your statement that the rest of the world isn't fooled is another opinion. Many in the rest of the world have been fooled by the Obama rhetoric, you included

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Byrd was cut from the excat same cloth as Helms was. And yet plenty of dems lionized him on a daily basis. Heck, he was a grand whatever of the KKK at one time.
    Shhh, don't tell that to Michael who claims that Republicans are the racists. Last I checked Byrd was a Democrat.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Byrd was cut from the excat same cloth as Helms was. And yet plenty of dems lionized him on a daily basis. Heck, he was a grand whatever of the KKK at one time.
    Ever consider the possibility he publicly admited that being a member of the KKK was a wrong choice and he regretted what he did?

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    No, there have been others voicing their suspicions that Jack is a bagger. If every bit of his agenda is in sync with baggerism then don't you have to wonder why he isn't honest about supporting it? Maybe you and I should challenge him to show us one aspect in which he disagrees with the bagger ideology?
    What the Hell is this 'bagger' thing of yours? Do you genuinely want to be taken seriously???

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