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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    Yes, I know the defence you are trying to mount here. You want people to believe that all the racist displays in tea bagger gatherings are done by their opposition in order to frame them of having racist tendencies. Well, it just doesn't work all that well.

    But isn't it sad that you have to resort to that sort of charge in order to defend the baggers! You, a declared independent who obviously wouldn't know those facts unless you yourself were part of the frameup.

    I suspect that you're not and so that only leads to one suspecting that you are one of them whose issue is protecting them for some reason. Why is that? Why would you think that they are being framed as opposed to being guilty?

    Are you just wishing it that way or do you have some evidence to show that they are being unfairly framed of being racists?

    Better question is, what are you made of? Can you answer my questions?
    Once again you presume too much. I don't believe most of those carrying hateful signs are participating in a frame-up. I believe, as I stated, that public attendance at a public event proves nothing about any group. NAMBLA has close ties to some Democrats. Should we extrapolate from that that Dems are pedophiles? I think not.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Are you talking about this guy?

    Ted Cruz knows nothing about Jesse Helms

    Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) bizarrely counts the Clinton-Gingrich government shutdown fight as a victory for Republicans. Yet his historical ignorance hit a new high with his idolization of the late Sen. Jess Helms (R-N.C.). In a speech yesterday, he declared the Senate needed 100 more like Jesse Helms.


    At the onset, let me say Helms was anavid supporter of segregation and any mention of his career expressing admiration for parts of his legacy need to be candid about that and deplore it. It is an odd thing indeed to say in 2013 we should have 100 more like Jesse Helms.
    My comment was not an endorsement, only a statement of fact.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It didn't take long for the Leftists to play the racist card.
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    So this racism get's tiresome, and you are quoting an opinion piece.
    Hmmm. What political ideology does Jennifer Rubin ascribe too?

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Come on Clownboy, why is this significant?

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Once again you presume too much. I don't believe most of those carrying hateful signs are participating in a frame-up. I believe, as I stated, that public attendance at a public event proves nothing about any group. NAMBLA has close ties to some Democrats. Should we extrapolate from that that Dems are pedophiles? I think not.
    If I presume too much then you are going to have to furnish evidence of that claim. The fact then does remain that you now don't think that most of the hateful racist signs aren't part of a frame up. You have us agreeing but you continue to take a contradictory position for some reason. Furnish some evidence now.

    If Nambla has close ties to some Democrats then some Democrats are Nambla supporters, or at least Nambla has found a reason to be encouraged by some Democrats. If Democrats allow Nambla supporters to mix with their ranks in an obvious way as do the baggers with the racists are doing, then Democrats will have to bear the guilt of supporting the Nambla label. The Dems would have to make it at least appear that they aren't in bed with them. And of course they do. Unless you have evidence to show that they are in bed with Nambla.

    The difference is, there is ample evidence to show that the baggers are mixing with and are in bed with the racists. The baggers are guilty of not disassociating with racist haters and therefore are branded with the label.

    What we can extrapolate is that pedophiles exist in all groups of different political persuasions. I think you will agree. And I think you will also have to agree that racism is being displayed at bagger street gatherings much more than it is being displayed at other persusaions' gathering. That's pretty solid evidence.

    But then, as you have demonstrated to me, you wanted to disagree with me on just who is carrying the signs purely for the sake of disagreement. Now you have changed your mind and agree that it's not all a frameup. You now have about as much credibility as the baggers have! And besides, your avatar and your location are a good indication of where you're coming from too. It's not for certain of course but it's right up there in per centages of being highly likely.

    Are you still fighting the civil war? I'll be watching your posts and reviewing some of your old ones in order to determine that. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, ...................

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    If I presume too much then you are going to have to furnish evidence of that claim. The fact then does remain that you now don't think that most of the hateful racist signs aren't part of a frame up. You have us agreeing but you continue to take a contradictory position for some reason. Furnish some evidence now.

    If Nambla has close ties to some Democrats then some Democrats are Nambla supporters, or at least Nambla has found a reason to be encouraged by some Democrats. If Democrats allow Nambla supporters to mix with their ranks in an obvious way as do the baggers with the racists are doing, then Democrats will have to bear the guilt of supporting the Nambla label. The Dems would have to make it at least appear that they aren't in bed with them. And of course they do. Unless you have evidence to show that they are in bed with Nambla.

    The difference is, there is ample evidence to show that the baggers are mixing with and are in bed with the racists. The baggers are guilty of not disassociating with racist haters and therefore are branded with the label.

    What we can extrapolate is that pedophiles exist in all groups of different political persuasions. I think you will agree. And I think you will also have to agree that racism is being displayed at bagger street gatherings much more than it is being displayed at other persusaions' gathering. That's pretty solid evidence.

    But then, as you have demonstrated to me, you wanted to disagree with me on just who is carrying the signs purely for the sake of disagreement. Now you have changed your mind and agree that it's not all a frameup. You now have about as much credibility as the baggers have! And besides, your avatar and your location are a good indication of where you're coming from too. It's not for certain of course but it's right up there in per centages of being highly likely.

    Are you still fighting the civil war? I'll be watching your posts and reviewing some of your old ones in order to determine that. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, ...................
    I'll take your last and silliest point first. Two photo portraits have hung on my office wall for many years: W.T. Sherman and J.L. Chamberlain. I have never made any claims about the identities of any sign carriers. You are confused. There is no evidence whatsoever of a racist component to the Tea Party.
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I'll take your last and silliest point first. Two photo portraits have hung on my office wall for many years: W.T. Sherman and J.L. Chamberlain. I have never made any claims about the identities of any sign carriers. You are confused. There is no evidence whatsoever of a racist component to the Tea Party.
    No Jack, you'll take my charge of you having fantasies of refighting your civil war and then ignore the rest. Run away Jack, you've been outed this time.

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    And besides, your avatar and your location are a good indication of where you're coming from too. It's not for certain of course but it's right up there in per centages of being highly likely.

    Are you still fighting the civil war? I'll be watching your posts and reviewing some of your old ones in order to determine that. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, ...................
    Just to finish off the last of the silliness, what is it about my avatar that you find interesting? JH's standing as the greatest Texas Ranger? His work founding the city of Oakland, CA? Or his service on behalf of the federal government during the Civil War?

    Are you aware that northern Virginia is a reliably Democratic voting region?
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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Hey everbody, look at Jack Hays! He's turned coat and now admitted that the racist sign carryers within the bagger street gatherings are indeed baggers!

    Didn't we know all along that a guy from Virginny with an avatar such as that has a really heavy axe to grind?

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    Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I'd like to see a show of hands regarding who actually would WANT Cruz and Palin to stump for their election.
    Compared to what we have right now in the WH, I would take Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck as both have more leadership skills than those two bozos in the WH but I forgot results don't matter to the "American Idol" voter like you

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