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    Re: Al-Qaida Surges Back in Iraq, Reviving Old Fears

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I wish I had time to read through all that. Based on the abstract it looks like probably there was little if any actual AQ presence in Iraq and any links where pretty tenuous at best, but they did work towards similar goals and had some secondhand connections. Have you read the full thing to verify if that is correct?
    The report indicates there were multiple terrorist organizations present but not 'operating' in Iraq. AlQaida is a fundamentalist driven terrorist organization (not exactly team players), Saddam was a 'convenient' Muslim at best. If the question is were there active Al Qaida cells operating within Iraqs borders against the Iraqi people and government, then no..the report doesnt indicate that at all.

    Al Qaida moved in as a presence after Saddam was ousted. If he were still in power there is little to no likelihood they would have had a real foothold in Iraq. But then...Saddam would have to still be in power.

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    Re: Al-Qaida Surges Back in Iraq, Reviving Old Fears

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The report indicates there were multiple terrorist organizations present but not 'operating' in Iraq. AlQaida is a fundamentalist driven terrorist organization (not exactly team players), Saddam was a 'convenient' Muslim at best. If the question is were there active Al Qaida cells operating within Iraqs borders against the Iraqi people and government, then no..the report doesnt indicate that at all.

    Al Qaida moved in as a presence after Saddam was ousted. If he were still in power there is little to no likelihood they would have had a real foothold in Iraq. But then...Saddam would have to still be in power.
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    I wonder why he changed his mind? He was right the first time.
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    Re: Al-Qaida Surges Back in Iraq, Reviving Old Fears

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Can any one actually document with a reputable source their claims about AQ in Iraq prior to the war? I see unsubstantiated claims both ways...
    Iraq's Alleged Al-Qaeda Ties Were Disputed Before War

    This was a report based on a Senate Report.

    In a classified January 2003 report, for instance, the CIA concluded that Hussein "viewed Islamic extremists operating inside Iraq as a threat." But one day after that conclusion was published, Levin noted, Vice President Cheney said the Iraqi government "aids and protects terrorists, including members of al-Qaeda."
    Far from aligning himself with al-Qaeda and Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Hussein repeatedly rebuffed al-Qaeda's overtures and tried to capture Zarqawi, the report said. Tariq Aziz, the detained former deputy prime minister, has told the FBI that Hussein "only expressed negative sentiments about [Osama] bin Laden."
    They did have a couple of operatives but Saddam was attempting to kick them out.
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    Re: Al-Qaida Surges Back in Iraq, Reviving Old Fears

    I wish the Democrats had used the tea party tactic of holding the debt ceiling hostage in 2006 to defund Bush vanity wars.

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    Re: Al-Qaida Surges Back in Iraq, Reviving Old Fears

    One thing is evident. If Saddam had any relationship to Al Qaida, Bush wouldn't miss the chance to accuse him of "support terrorism". He couldn't find any then he had to find an fake "WMD" to start his unjust war in Iraq.

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    Re: Al-Qaida Surges Back in Iraq, Reviving Old Fears

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Did they?
    Yes: http://csis.org/files/publication/11...daIraq_Web.pdf Read the first 4 sentences... Wont let me copy and paste for some reason.


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    Re: Al-Qaida Surges Back in Iraq, Reviving Old Fears

    If your looking for a source you should just read the 9/11 commission report...
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    Re: Al-Qaida Surges Back in Iraq, Reviving Old Fears

    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
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    No Al Qaida was heard in Iraq of Saddam's regime. Who brought them in?
    They brought themselves in.
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    Re: Al-Qaida Surges Back in Iraq, Reviving Old Fears

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Can any one actually document with a reputable source their claims about AQ in Iraq prior to the war? I see unsubstantiated claims both ways...
    How do you define a reputable source?
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