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    Re: Utah national parks to open Saturday with state aid

    More important to me than buffer zones are proper safety techniques..
    As we have seen, there really is no buffer zone when the pipelines break near the Yellowstone River..
    Just kidding, remember when Dick Cheney wanted to plow the Absorokas into the Yellowstone caldron..
    Lately, I've been staying in KOA Kamping Kabins just west of West Yellowstone..
    The peaceful ride along the Madison R. is priceless and all roads within the Park are finished.
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    I see no problem with doing things NEAR parks or wilderness. Just how far should this buffer zone extend in your opinion? One mile? Ten miles? A hundred miles???? The boundary is the boundary.
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    I couldn't agree with you more..
    But it is a threee-day drive with my wife..
    We now have a long-time friend from back here retired there..
    And you didn't even mention your Crater Lake, but did intimate the Banana coast.
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    Oregon kicks ass in that regard. Deserts, mountains, shoreline, forests and green, green, green.
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    Re: Utah national parks to open Saturday with state aid

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, the reason the parks are shut down is because the Democrats refused to fund them, despite a Republican offer to fund federal parks as well as Veterans Affairs.
    As Mike Lee from Utah would say, that is so last week..
    The rest of us here are having an adult "conversation" going down memory lane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Have you ever even visited Utah's parks or do you just sit in your house and bitch about them?
    I've been all over them thar hills and then some. Yes, I've been to all of the Utah National Parks except Mt. Timpanogos...it's on my bucket list. lol

    We used to have friends that lived in Moab and we'd go on hikes that weren't even on the map to see little known ruins and petroglyph's. From belly crawling along 1 ft. ledges and inching up and down endless revenes....almost getting my face swiped off by a bear at Yosemite....charged by a buffalo in Yellowstone.....to canoing down the Green River and seeing dinsaur footprints and rapid river rafting on the Colorado....to back packing into the high mountains and deserts.....trilabyte and precious stone hunting central utah.....hot springs after skiing in the winter.....boating, camping, hiking in summer....there aren't many state and national parks in Utah that I haven't been to. I love my state for it's natural beauty and wonders and would like it see it kept that way. I'm also a member of SUWA.

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    Re: Utah national parks to open Saturday with state aid

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I see no problem with doing things NEAR parks or wilderness. Just how far should this buffer zone extend in your opinion? One mile? Ten miles? A hundred miles???? The boundary is the boundary.
    A boundry as far away as your backyard would be fine with me. The noise and the air pollution from the machinery and big trucks kicking up dust on dirt roads scarring of the land and the environmental impact of the workers and their housing needs ...yeah, they could ruin tourism to Arches and Canyonlands, no question about it.

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    Re: Utah national parks to open Saturday with state aid

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    As Mike Lee from Utah would say, that is so last week..
    The rest of us here are having an adult "conversation" going down memory lane.
    "Memory lane" is not the topic here.

    The fact remains that the Republicans tried to fund Parks and Veterans Affairs and the Dems refused. Will you be able to remember that?.

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    Re: Utah national parks to open Saturday with state aid

    Still playing politics with effects instead of solutions for causes!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    "Memory lane" is not the topic here.

    The fact remains that the Republicans tried to fund Parks and Veterans Affairs and the Dems refused. Will you be able to remember that?.
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    Re: Utah national parks to open Saturday with state aid

    I will do my usual question asking, by what authority does the federal government own land, and parks?

    since the constitution does not give them this power, and it states the federal government can only have buildings, at the approval of a state.

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    Re: Utah national parks to open Saturday with state aid

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post

    I'm talking admission fees, national parks are money making machines.
    I really doubt that. Admission fees are a minute part of the total revenue generated by a national park. I really doubt they cover the operating costs of the park. IF parks were profitable in their own right, they would not have been shuttered, as they would not need government funds to operate. What state, in its right mind, would want to own the loss leader? Why would a state want to own a national park when under the current system, they get the milk without the cost of the cow?
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    Re: Utah national parks to open Saturday with state aid

    Thankfully ernst, by the authority of A. Linclon and T.Roosevelt, which is why their faces are on Mt. Rushmore..Do you know the story behind the monument??
    Along with the greatest Federal landgrabber of all, T. Jefferson, and our First President.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    I will do my usual question asking, by what authority does the federal government own land, and parks?

    since the constitution does not give them this power, and it states the federal government can only have buildings, at the approval of a state.
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