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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Refusal to fund Obamacare led the GOP to shut down the government.
    It's the Dems that shut down the government, because they want everything, or nothing, going against the will of the people.
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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Democrats haven't offered up a budget in 4 years. There hasn't been anything to negotiate.
    Yes they have. What universe do you live in?

    The House GOP hasn't allowed them to come to a vote. That doesn't mean there were no offers.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    false equivalency
    It's the truth; something alien to the Libbos.
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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's the Dems that shut down the government, because they want everything, or nothing, going against the will of the people.
    Apparently "everything" includes the exact spending levels the GOP asked for.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes they have. What universe do you live in?

    The House GOP hasn't allowed them to come to a vote. That doesn't mean there were no offers.
    The Senate passes the budget. The Senate hasn't passed a budget to vote on. I live here in the real workd.
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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It has everything to with shutting down the government. The House passed a bill that funded everything, but Obamacare. The Libbos didn't go for it.
    News flash. No matter how bad a law Obamacare is, it was still passed by both houses of congress, the President signed it, and SCOTUS upheld it. If the law is as bad as you portray it, the Dems will be voted out of both houses and the WH and a repeal will occur. Just because the GOP can't get enough votes doesn't mean you undermine the system and hold the American people hostage. Another new flash: Obamacare is ongoing and the world hasn't stopped, only our government has.
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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Democrats haven't offered up a budget in 4 years. There hasn't been anything to negotiate.
    The Senate passed their view of a budget in March (yes, after four years), so there has been something to negotiate.


    Senate passes budget

    You really should research your assertions before posting them. You would save your self of the embarrassment of appearing ill-informed.

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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Senate passes the budget. The Senate hasn't passed a budget to vote on. I live here in the real workd.
    The Senate doesn't always waste its time with votes on bills they know the House isn't going to pass. Unlike the House GOP.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The Senate doesn't always waste its time with votes on bills they know the House isn't going to pass. Unlike the House GOP.
    Lol...by law, the Senate has to adopt a budget. The Senate didn't adopt a budget when the Dems controlled the House. The Libbos are obviously trying to run the country into the ground.
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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Collins is one of the voices of reason within the Republican Party, and her ability to negotiate honestly is the reason that she is frequently called on to help solve impasses between the 2 parties. I believe her proposal will attract enough votes from both Democrats and Republicans to end the shutdown, as well as the looming default on our debt, which hits in less than a week. Rather than attempting to defund Obamacare, or use poison pills in her proposals, in attempts to make the other side look bad, she has come up with something that is truly bipartisan. Her proposal does kill the medical device tax, but otherwise leaves Obamacare alone. And why not? Obamacare has nothing to do with shutting down the government.

    While the GOP has gone off the deep end, Collins remains a voice of reason within the party, which is why her approval rating remains at 69%, as the ratings of others in her party are tanking. She will never be defeated by a Democrat, and the Tea Party will never be able to primary her out of her job. People see her as honest, which she is, and that kind of reputation is everything.

    Article is here
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    I agree with everything you said. It was reported she worked with Manchin a Democrat from West Virginia on her proposal which Reid turned down. Both seem level headed than the party above country crowd in the leadership positions of both parties.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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