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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

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    Collins is one of the voices of reason within the Republican Party, and her ability to negotiate honestly is the reason that she is frequently called on to help solve impasses between the 2 parties. I believe her proposal will attract enough votes from both Democrats and Republicans to end the shutdown, as well as the looming default on our debt, which hits in less than a week. Rather than attempting to defund Obamacare, or use poison pills in her proposals, in attempts to make the other side look bad, she has come up with something that is truly bipartisan. Her proposal does kill the medical device tax, but otherwise leaves Obamacare alone. And why not? Obamacare has nothing to do with shutting down the government.

    While the GOP has gone off the deep end, Collins remains a voice of reason within the party, which is why her approval rating remains at 69%, as the ratings of others in her party are tanking. She will never be defeated by a Democrat, and the Tea Party will never be able to primary her out of her job. People see her as honest, which she is, and that kind of reputation is everything.

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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Collins is one of the voices of reason within the Republican Party, and her ability to negotiate honestly is the reason that she is frequently called on to help solve impasses between the 2 parties. I believe her proposal will attract enough votes from both Democrats and Republicans to end the shutdown, as well as the looming default on our debt, which hits in less than a week. Rather than attempting to defund Obamacare, or use poison pills in her proposals, in attempts to make the other side look bad, she has come up with something that is truly bipartisan. Her proposal does kill the medical device tax, but otherwise leaves Obamacare alone. And why not? Obamacare has nothing to do with shutting down the government.

    While the GOP has gone off the deep end, Collins remains a voice of reason within the party, which is why her approval rating remains at 69%, as the ratings of others in her party are tanking. She will never be defeated by a Democrat, and the Tea Party will never be able to primary her out of her job. People see her as honest, which she is, and that kind of reputation is everything.

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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

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    No, funding Obamacare, is the reason the Democrats let the government shut down.
    You just said that defunding Obamacare had everything to do with shutting down the government....


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    It has everything to with shutting down the government. The House passed a bill that funded everything, but Obamacare. The Libbos didn't go for it.

    Democrats offered to negotiate the budget 18 times in the last six or seven months and the Repubs refused to even appoint a negotiator. This self induced crisis is on the Republicans heads.

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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    You just said that defunding Obamacare had everything to do with shutting down the government....





    Democrats offered to negotiate the budget 18 times in the last six or seven months and the Repubs refused to even appoint a negotiator. This self induced crisis is on the Republicans heads.
    The House passed 4 appropriations bills months ago, and the Senate has done nothing. They have voted on exactly one bill since July.

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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    The House passed 4 appropriations bills months ago, and the Senate has done nothing. They have voted on exactly one bill since July.
    it all depends on the content of the 4 bills in question?

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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, funding Obamacare, is the reason the Democrats let the government shut down.
    Refusal to fund Obamacare led the GOP to shut down the government.
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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Refusal to fund Obamacare led the GOP to shut down the government.
    May I be so bold as to assist with a slight re-wording....

    Refusal to fund the law of the land, passed by both Houses, signed into law by the president, and affirmed constitutional by the Supreme Court led the GOP to shut down the government in a temper tantrum akin to two year olds.
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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

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    We aren't getting revenue from the tax, so there's nothing to replace.
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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

    Well, to give you an idea of what kind of clout she may have, I'm liberal (though not a Democrat and not progressive), and I would even consider voting for her for President. I admire her that much.

    But I don't know if fooling with Obamacare is on the table at all. It's an intricately woven maze of provisions that provide for funding of the Act and spreading of risk and such. I suspect they can't upset the apple cart too much in the beginning until they see what can and can't be removed or revised. It could end up costing the taxpayer.

    It's like the Dems saying "we won't approve paying our bills unless Honda is required to start making more cars in this country." The two things aren't connected. They would be holding our credit hostage for a pony they want.

    But the fact that it came from Collins carries weight, I'm sure. We'll see.

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    Re: Sen. Susan Collins of Maine suggests way out of budget and debt-ceiling crises

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    You just said that defunding Obamacare had everything to do with shutting down the government....





    Democrats offered to negotiate the budget 18 times in the last six or seven months and the Repubs refused to even appoint a negotiator. This self induced crisis is on the Republicans heads.
    The Democrats haven't offered up a budget in 4 years. There hasn't been anything to negotiate.
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