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Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

j-mac said:
Well, I read what he had to say, and I must say that there is nothing like being told that us dumb Americans don't have a clue in dry, drivel that pines for a totalitarian style of government....Believe me, I am not attacking the author personally, although that would be easy, because the overtly biased David Runciman has been taken to task before, here: Those crazy Republicans explained: a BBC bias masterclass - Biased BBC

In the end he is a liberal, political science degree holder, that sits on the border of advocating, and opining for the good ol' days of Soviet style communism...

To put it nicely, I don't think much of his opinion....
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Not exactly what he said. He said such cliams of doom and gloom, of hatred talk, is not new. And he doesn't say anyone on the spectrum is worse than another. The article also criticizes accademics.
 
Boo Radley said:
Not exactly what he said. He said such cliams of doom and gloom, of hatred talk, is not new. And he doesn't say anyone on the spectrum is worse than another. The article also criticizes accademics.
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Yeah, I read it, but don't be fooled by the seeming cover he gives by paying microscopic lip service to what you now point to as some proof of equal treatment...It's thin, and his track record of taking a hackish liberal stance on a range of subjects must be taken into account.
 
j-mac said:
Yeah, I read it, but don't be fooled by the seeming cover he gives by paying microscopic lip service to what you now point to as some proof of equal treatment...It's thin, and his track record of taking a hackish liberal stance on a range of subjects must be taken into account.
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I always mistrust those who tell other people what they really meant. Any chance you let your bias read into things what isn't there?
 
Boo Radley said:
I always mistrust those who tell other people what they really meant. Any chance you let your bias read into things what isn't there?
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Well, that is the usual response whenever I don't buy into any article you think proves your point, that or attack me personally by highlighting some bias, because I don't agree. Any chance that your own bias caused you to post an article from a person that is documented to have such biased views himself against the Conservatives, or TP in America that he has been called on it in the past? I am sure not.....:coffeepap:
 
j-mac said:
Well, that is the usual response whenever I don't buy into any article you think proves your point, that or attack me personally by highlighting some bias, because I don't agree. Any chance that your own bias caused you to post an article from a person that is documented to have such biased views himself against the Conservatives, or TP in America that he has been called on it in the past? I am sure not.....:coffeepap:
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J, you didn't address the point, so I'm not sure you know what it is. The point was not about bias, but about how often both sides see the sky as falling, and it never falls. You keep skipping over it. He could be the most biased SOB in the world, and dead set correct on this.
 
Boo Radley said:
J, you didn't address the point, so I'm not sure you know what it is. The point was not about bias, but about how often both sides see the sky as falling, and it never falls. You keep skipping over it. He could be the most biased SOB in the world, and dead set correct on this.
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Not going to play that game with you Joe...I really don't need your condescension. Pseudo Intellectualism doesn't impress me. Even with an English accent.
 
j-mac said:
Not going to play that game with you Joe...I really don't need your condescension. Pseudo Intellectualism doesn't impress me. Even with an English accent.
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It's not a game j. Nor is it condescension. Nor particularly intellectual, unless of course you call actually thinking and address the point intellectualism. All I want is for you to address what was actually said. Why is that so hard for you?
 
Boo Radley said:
It's not a game j.
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Sure it is Joe....What's not when trying to discuss anything with you? ;)

Nor is it condescension.
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Oh, so now hundreds of miles away, through an internet connection, having never even met me, you can tell what I find condescending? Wow, that is special....:roll:

Nor particularly intellectual
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That's for sure.

unless of course you call actually thinking and address the point intellectualism. All I want is for you to address what was actually said.
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Because I have now repeatedly told you that I don't care what some pompous Brit, that you ideologically line up with has to say. It's bull ****.

Why is that so hard for you?
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Indeed.
 
j-mac said:
Sure it is Joe....What's not when trying to discuss anything with you? ;)
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You may look at yourself more than me, as you're the one not addressing the point.

Oh, so now hundreds of miles away, through an internet connection, having never even met me, you can tell what I find condescending? Wow, that is special....:roll:
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It's not about what you find or think, but what something really is. Some people just read in to things what isn't there.





Because I have now repeatedly told you that I don't care what some pompous Brit, that you ideologically line up with has to say. It's bull ****.
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It's not about him. It's about the point. What was argued. When will you understand this?


Indeed.
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Care to answer? And you still have not so much as attempted to answer the point. It is you that always makes it about personalities. No one else.
 
j-mac said:
Asked and answered....Move on.
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So you agree that we've always complained about or leaders seeing doom and gloom, and that largely it's all hype?
 
Boo Radley said:
So you agree that we've always complained about or leaders seeing doom and gloom, and that largely it's all hype?
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In a sense maybe, but that in no way means that we should be passive in the face of what could possibly be destructive. That you don't like the comparison that Dr. Carson made, I get that, but for goodness sake, you and other liberals act as though scrutiny is above reproach. That leads to not acting before destruction, and is unacceptable....
 
j-mac said:
In a sense maybe, but that in no way means that we should be passive in the face of what could possibly be destructive. That you don't like the comparison that Dr. Carson made, I get that, but for goodness sake, you and other liberals act as though scrutiny is above reproach. That leads to not acting before destruction, and is unacceptable....
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I said nothing about being passive. I do think exaggeration isn't the way to go either. But if you can see this cylce, I would think it might tone down the rhetoric a little.

And Carson made a silly, inaccurate comparison. I mean it is really over the top to the extreme. I think that hurts his credibility. It hurts the credibility of anyone who repeats it. By all means, criticize, scrutinize, but do so in the realm of reality, but do so honestly, and not with this wild eyed hyperbolic nonsense.
 
Boo Radley said:
I said nothing about being passive. I do think exaggeration isn't the way to go either. But if you can see this cylce, I would think it might tone down the rhetoric a little.

And Carson made a silly, inaccurate comparison. I mean it is really over the top to the extreme. I think that hurts his credibility. It hurts the credibility of anyone who repeats it. By all means, criticize, scrutinize, but do so in the realm of reality, but do so honestly, and not with this wild eyed hyperbolic nonsense.
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And there are those that think his comparison was apt...So? :shrug: I think maybe you don't like the comparison because it hits a little close to the truth.
 
j-mac said:
And there are those that think his comparison was apt...So? :shrug: I think maybe you don't like the comparison because it hits a little close to the truth.
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Do you believe there is no objective standard? Who is in chains? Who is being whipped? Who is being lynched? Can you really not see the absurdity of the claim? Really?

And stop with the tired old tactic of when your exaggerations are pointed out, you try to claim too close to home. It's shear silliness.
 
Boo Radley said:
Do you believe there is no objective standard? Who is in chains? Who is being whipped? Who is being lynched? Can you really not see the absurdity of the claim? Really?

And stop with the tired old tactic of when your exaggerations are pointed out, you try to claim too close to home. It's shear silliness.
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Do you not understand metaphoric speech? Or do you really think that because he said that, that for it to be true, people have to actually, physically be enslaved? Don't be silly Joe.
 
j-mac said:
Do you not understand metaphoric speech? Or do you really think that because he said that, that for it to be true, people have to actually, physically be enslaved? Don't be silly Joe.
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Yes I do. It's not so hyperbolic as it defy reality. And yes, to say it is like that, it must be like that. That's what makes a metaphor work.
 
Boo Radley said:
Yes I do. It's not so hyperbolic as it defy reality. And yes, to say it is like that, it must be like that. That's what makes a metaphor work.
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What Dr.Carson said was no big deal, and everyone knows it.

What the leftists are trying to do is immediately undermine any candidate who might be a threat to Hillary. They are not interested in policies, they are only interested in attacking the person. It is this attitude which has poisoned American politics and leads to incompetents like Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi being elected.

Debating nonsense like this only make their arguments seem debate worthy.They should be ignored.
 
No, but me not paying for those houses drives down the value and drives up the cost of getting a loan. Just like not paying for health care drives up cost and degrades availability.
 
Grant said:
What Dr.Carson said was no big deal, and everyone knows it.

What the leftists are trying to do is immediately undermine any candidate who might be a threat to Hillary. They are not interested in policies, they are only interested in attacking the person. It is this attitude which has poisoned American politics and leads to incompetents like Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi being elected.

Debating nonsense like this only make their arguments seem debate worthy.They should be ignored.
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In that few take it seriously, I agree it's not a big deal. But the comparison is outrageously misguided.

As for yet another silly "leftist" comment, do you even read what you guys post calling all kinds of democrats names? You seem comically unaware of yourself and those like you.
 
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