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Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

They care because they think he got through school because he's black.

Oh, I know that. There's a reason they keep yammering about Affirmative Action in regards to both Obama (which may or may not be relevant) and his WIFE, which certainly isn't relevant.
 
They care because they think he got through school because he's black.

Oooooh. It's all about RACISM, is it???

I doubt this charge carries as much weight as it once did. Now it says more about the accuser than anything else.
 
Oooooh. It's all about RACISM, is it???

I doubt this charge carries as much weight as it once did. Now it says more about the accuser than anything else.

It's a common right-wing talking point that Obama only got into Harvard because of Affirmative Action. Don't pretend that line of thought doesn't exist.
 
Oh, I know that. There's a reason they keep yammering about Affirmative Action in regards to both Obama (which may or may not be relevant) and his WIFE, which certainly isn't relevant.

Do you feel his ivolvement with Affirmative Action should not be mentioned?

And what did they say about his wife?
 
It's a common right-wing talking point that Obama only got into Harvard because of Affirmative Action. Don't pretend that line of thought doesn't exist.

I didn't know that was the reason he got into Harvard, but of course it's quite possible.
 
Do you feel his ivolvement with Affirmative Action should not be mentioned?

I think that the constant (unproven) mentions of AA serve only to attempt to delegitimize him.

I didn't say they shouldn't be mentioned; I just don't think they should be meritlessly speculated upon.

And what did they say about his wife?

https://www.google.com/search?q=mic...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

A Google search for "Michelle Obama + affirmative action" turns up a whole slew of right-wing sites.
 
It's a common right-wing talking point that Obama only got into Harvard because of Affirmative Action. Don't pretend that line of thought doesn't exist.

There is no doubt he received preferential treatment in Harvard as a result of Affirmative Action and it is likely, according to BHO, that it help get him entry as well. The truth doesn't care much about 'wings'.
 
I think that the constant (unproven) mentions of AA serve only to attempt to delegitimize him.

I didn't say they shouldn't be mentioned; I just don't think they should be meritlessly speculated upon.
This is not speculation. BHO admitted it was true. It's easy enough to do the research.
https://www.google.com/search?q=mic...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
A Google search for "Michelle Obama + affirmative action" turns up a whole slew of right-wing sites.

What's your point? Are there some lies being spread?
 
This is not speculation. BHO admitted it was true. It's easy enough to do the research.

Obama has admitted he may have gotten some help along the way; claims of this AA status have been wildly blown out of proportion.

What's your point? Are there some lies being spread?

1. Innuendo and speculation, mostly.
2. I don't see how Mrs. Obama's academic records are even remotely germane to anything.
 
That's wonderful. That also doesn't mean he should be taken seriously when it comes to politics.



If you are claiming Obama has a 0% success rate of keeping promises, you're out of your tree.



"No accomplishments." You truly are little more than a hyperpartisan. Your "independent" lean is laughable.

Obama’s Top 50 Accomplishments by Paul Glastris, Ryan Cooper, and Siyu Hu | The Washington Monthly

Did a little more digging on who exactly Washington Monthly is.
Washington Monthly is a bimonthly nonprofit magazine of United States politics and government that is based in Washington, D.C.
The magazine's founder is Charles Peters, who started the magazine in 1969 and continues to write the "Tilting at Windmills" column in each issue. Paul Glastris, former speechwriter for Bill Clinton, has been Washington Monthly's editor-in-chief since 2001. In 2008, the magazine switched from a monthly to a bimonthly publication schedule, citing high publication costs.
Diane Straus Tucker is the magazine's current publisher.[SUP][1][/SUP] Past staff editors of the magazine include Jonathan Alter, Taylor Branch, James Fallows, Joshua Green, David Ignatius, Mickey Kaus, Nicholas Lemann, Suzannah Lessard, Jon Meacham, Timothy Noah, Joe Nocera, and Steven Waldman. Markos Kounalakis is the president and publisher emeritus[SUP][2][/SUP]
The politics of Washington Monthly are left of center. Founder Charles Peters refers to himself as a New Deal Democrat and advocates the effective use of government to address social problems. His columns also frequently emphasize the importance of a vigilant "fourth estate" in keeping government honest.
Washington Monthly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hmm, interesting collection of leftists there, Paul Glastris, Charles Peters 'the effective use of government to address social problems.'

The other articles that caught my eye were:

Funny, but you know those articles remind me of the following sycophancy:
Valerie Jarrett, perhaps Obama’s closest and longest-serving adviser, on her hero’s amazingness:

“He knows exactly how smart he is. ... I think that he has never really been challenged intellectually. ... He’s been bored to death his whole life. He’s just too talented to do what ordinary people do. He would never be satisfied with what ordinary people do.”​
George Will: How a presidency unravels (Please note, Will's article is only the source for a direct quote, none of his analysis is being used here)

Meh. Some people. Really.

Suffice it to say from the following examples that you aren't going to get any sort of honest opinions about Obama from the leftist press and leftist sources.
 
Obama has admitted he may have gotten some help along the way; claims of this AA status have been wildly blown out of proportion.
Blown out of proportion? How so? Either he received preferential treatment because of his skin color or he didn't.

1. Innuendo and speculation, mostly.
2. I don't see how Mrs. Obama's academic records are even remotely germane to anything.

You were the one who brought it up, remember? But it seems it was all the truth about Michelle who, despite this preferential treatment, still wasn't proud of her country.
 
Blown out of proportion? How so? Either he received preferential treatment because of his skin color or he didn't.

Are there not varying degrees of "preferential treatment"?

You were the one who brought it up, remember? But it seems it was all the truth about Michelle who, despite this preferential treatment, still wasn't proud of her country.

I did bring it up, just as an aside.
 
Did a little more digging on who exactly Washington Monthly is.

Washington Monthly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hmm, interesting collection of leftists there, Paul Glastris, Charles Peters 'the effective use of government to address social problems.'

The other articles that caught my eye were:

Funny, but you know those articles remind me of the following sycophancy:

George Will: How a presidency unravels (Please note, Will's article is only the source for a direct quote, none of his analysis is being used here)

Meh. Some people. Really.

Suffice it to say from the following examples that you aren't going to get any sort of honest opinions about Obama from the leftist press and leftist sources.

I know exactly what the Washington Monthly is. But way to dismiss the source, rather than refute the content within.
 
“He knows exactly how smart he is. ... I think that he has never really been challenged intellectually. ... He’s been bored to death his whole life. He’s just too talented to do what ordinary people do. He would never be satisfied with what ordinary people do.”

Great stuff! I don't see why Affirmative Action was even required for a brainiac like BHO.
 
I know exactly what the Washington Monthly is. But way to dismiss the source, rather than refute the content within.

The content therein is sophomoric opinion designed only for those who would vote for this guy in the first place, the Low Information Voter.
 
Great stuff! I don't see why Affirmative Action was even required for a brainiac like BHO.

And in another thread, I'm evil for not refuting personal attacks on Palin. If that's not hypocritical, I don't know what is...
 
I know exactly what the Washington Monthly is. But way to dismiss the source, rather than refute the content within.

Excuse me, but I believe I did post a challenge to the content of the article. Perhaps you missed it?

Well, that's kinda really the point isn't it? Solve problems and improve the standing of the country both domestically and internationally.

No time to look at all 50, but about the top 5.


  1. Passed Health Care Reform - Saddled with a legislative monstrosity, a failing policy that is going to bail out insurance companies to the potential tune of $ Trillions, and a failed technology roll out due to careless lack of management
  2. Passed the Stimulus - Little more than political payback at the people's expense when you examine to whom the stimulus payments went, with little economy improvement if any at all
  3. Passed Wall Street Reform - Another legislative monstrosity that won't even accomplish it's primary goal of ending too big to fail, and also increased costs of excessive regulatory compliance, including the BS minorities financial sector job set aside
  4. Ended the War in Iraq - True he did. As of yet to be seen if a stable, non Muslim extremist regime will be able to survive or not
  5. Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan - Isn't this the same as the one above? I'd consider drawing down troops certainly part of ending a war

So like I'm not seeing stellar achievement here.
 
The content therein is sophomoric opinion designed only for those who would vote for this guy in the first place, the Low Information Voter.

Did you even read it?
 
Then you're comment of "I don't see how Mrs. Obama's academic records are even remotely germane to anything" was not germane.

Then don't address it if you don't like it. I really couldn't care less.
 
Excuse me, but I believe I did post a challenge to the content of the article. Perhaps you missed it?

Lazily challenged 1/10 of it. And I actually AGREE with you on a couple of the ones you did. Specifically 1 and 3.

The stimulus wasn't intended to "improve the economy," it was intended to PREVENT a full-blown depression. The only "improvement" was to pull it out of its death spiral. And the idea that there has been "very little economic improvement" since the stimulus is ridiculous. The economy isn't good now, but it's exponentially better than it was in early 2009.

The intent of the article, at least for me, was not to say that all 50 of those are even legit accomplishments, it was to challenge the notion posted by someone else that Obama had zero accomplishments. That's simply asinine.
 
And in another thread, I'm evil for not refuting personal attacks on Palin. If that's not hypocritical, I don't know what is...

What? Are you suggesting I want someone to s**t and P**s in Barrack Obama's mouth?

Maybe you were waiting for a gotcha opportunity but this certainly wasn't it.
 
What? Are you suggesting I want someone to s**t and P**s in Barrack Obama's mouth?

Maybe you were waiting for a gotcha opportunity but this certainly wasn't it.

Oh please. You, in the other thread, explicitly stated that discussing Palin's comments that prefaced Bashir's outburst was somehow tacitly defending Bashir. Yes, you are a hypocrite.
 
The content therein is sophomoric opinion designed only for those who would vote for this guy in the first place, the Low Information Voter.

A conservative's definition of "low information voter" = "someone who doesn't vote the way I do."

It's quite a self-serving racket you guys have built for yourselves, believing that everyone who may have voted for Obama doesn't know anything.
 
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