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Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

If you do not want your fellow countrymen to be healthy then that is not just selfishness and greed! I think it is more about being part of neglecting people to death.



So why is this called the affordable act then? Is it not to make it more available to the rest of you also?
I want my fellow countrymen to be well,but I hardly think just giving them something for nothing is going to make them well, especially when the rest of us, who work hard to pay for ours as well as, now, all others, will get lesser care... that does not make us well or better off.

And you are joking about why they call it the affordable care act right? Nobody really falls for that anymore do they?
 
I want my fellow countrymen to be well,but I hardly think just giving them something for nothing is going to make them well, especially when the rest of us, who work hard to pay for ours as well as, now, all others, will get lesser care... that does not make us well or better off.

And you are joking about why they call it the affordable care act right? Nobody really falls for that anymore do they?

As far as I know Obama made it more affordable by having tax pay for medical services rather than insurance. Why would not the rest of you benefit from this also?
 
"That’s why when this administration took office it didn’t matter that the country was going off the cliff economically. All forces were directed toward getting this legislation passed,” Carson said.

I've started threads trying to get americans to take a good long hard look at this, to no avail. Why does my approach to calling BS seem to be so unique that nobody can grasp it, when in actuality, all I do is look beyond the facade, and focus more on the surrounding facts and circumstances. In this way, a clear picture emerges. Anybody can do it...

FACT: Our nation was (and still is) on the verge of financial collapse, and even during the sequester, I saw a news clip about it. The senators and congress were trying to solve important fiscal issues but obama kept pushing those aside and bringing this obamacare plan to the forefront. To add to the oddity of it all, nobody wanted it. I will happily, at your request, post numerous links in support of the fact that there was an overwhelming amount of non-support. If you disagree, please post some links where we can see that there was anybody in favor of it.

All states and counties have free clinics and emergency room visits. My state/county provides free full blown coverage for low-income. With my MSI in California, even visits to specialists were covered, as well as most of the pharmacy costs. I'm on 6 different heart meds and I pay $8 for all my refills. So, it MUST be concluded that the "urgency" for obamacare is phony BS. If you live in the US, and were denied free medical care, I'd like to know what city and state you live in so I can verify this.

So then obama says something to the effect that his sole concern is to pass this bill, and nevermind that it is too long for anybody to read, it needs to pass and we can read it later! Because he cares about our health and too many are uninsured....but wait! Red flags. There hasn't been some big thing where a bunch of people died because they were refused medical attention. So where does this urgency come from that brings this issue to the forefront, more important than all other issues during the sequester, and needs to be passed before anybody reads it? Thin air is where it came from. So clearly, there is some other hidden reason for the whole thing, and them not telling us what this real reason is, is enough to take a stand, and refuse the unconstitutional implementation of it.
 
As I said, not looking at your biased "partisan"fact site... read the book, or concede. Or read the book and concede... doesn't matter to me, just the truth matters.

I know. Facts have a liberal bias, as does reality so I hear. :lamo:lamo:lamo
 
You jump into the conversation way late and did not do your home work, your due dilligence to read the various previous posts [ the conversations, the context and vital information ] over very thoroughly beforehand ...that would've more or less obviated your less than thought out, already been tried, attempts... probably give you maybe a D- on that and as to logic, well... see me after class.

Oh, and if you want to appear hip, you still don't wear a bow tie...and its not dog, its dawg, dawg.

I thought I was talking to the bounty hunter, my apologies.

And there were 70+ pages of posts when I replied. Who would read 70+ pages because they wanted to respond? I checked the first two pages and last two pages of posts. Besides, I don't think my post particularly needs responding to. I pointed out how ridiculous it is to call Obamacare the worst thing since slavery. Most importantly, I think I made a pretty solid list of things that make health care reform seem more like the emancipation proclamation and less like slavery.
 
I thought I was talking to the bounty hunter, my apologies.

And there were 70+ pages of posts when I replied. Who would read 70+ pages because they wanted to respond? I checked the first two pages and last two pages of posts. Besides, I don't think my post particularly needs responding to. I pointed out how ridiculous it is to call Obamacare the worst thing since slavery. Most importantly, I think I made a pretty solid list of things that make health care reform seem more like the emancipation proclamation and less like slavery.

Taxation is slavery
 
Taxation is slavery

You aren't required to pay taxes. You can choose to become homeless with zero income. You could move to another country. Taxes are obligations which you incur when you enjoy the benefits of a modern society. No one is forcing you to to use all of the goods and services your tax dollars provide. If you don't want to pay, then leave.

Slaves don't get that choice. Slaves are property.

There's a giant chasm between taxation and slavery.
 
Already did that...read read read...gotta keep up if you want to stay informed, there, pb.
Oh, I've read your opinion on the subject, but you must realize its nothing but your opinion which you are entitled to have. I asked for proof and you offered none. Actually, President Obama's comments after the George Zimmerman trial are the best evidence that he is not racist. His reason for speaking was to show why many African Americans had negative feelings about the case. Watch or read what he said that day:

Obama Trayvon Martin Speech Transcript: President Comments On George Zimmerman Verdict

You've said President Obama is racist, I am not saying you are, but could you please prove you are not racist?
 
You aren't required to pay taxes. You can choose to become homeless with zero income. You could move to another country. Taxes are obligations which you incur when you enjoy the benefits of a modern society. No one is forcing you to to use all of the goods and services your tax dollars provide. If you don't want to pay, then leave.

Slaves don't get that choice. Slaves are property.

There's a giant chasm between taxation and slavery.

There are many levels of servitude
 
Yeah...

I'm going to go with the interring of Japanese, German, and Italian Citizens as being a worse thing
 
I'll stick with fact based news, thanks :roll:

When have you done that? :coffeepap

But news wasn't the issue. It was the hyperbolic use of the word slavery. It was humorous. Most people laugh at humor. I laugh when I read Dr. Carson here (also not fact based news).
 
When have you done that? :coffeepap

But news wasn't the issue. It was the hyperbolic use of the word slavery. It was humorous. Most people laugh at humor. I laugh when I read Dr. Carson here (also not fact based news).

You think that Carson was making a joke?
 
No. I just think his statement works better as Satire. It is a hyperbolic over the top statement.

Even as satire I'm having a hard time imagining what purpose it serves, unless he was trying to say, "Boy our side sure does have some crazy, uneducated mofos, am I right?"
 
Even as satire I'm having a hard time imagining what purpose it serves, unless he was trying to say, "Boy our side sure does have some crazy, uneducated mofos, am I right?"

Well, he is making himself and them the butt of the joke, much as Glen Beck did. He too worked only as satire, but satire of his side.
 
Do you think a plague that killed 30-50 million people is worse than the PPACA? I really don't see why you have such a hard time answering the question. All it requires is a yes or no.

I don't know why you won't try and explain how slavery is worse than slavery. You didn't have trouble listed events and leaders of countries that required their own people and others to become slaves in a lame attempt to tie Dr Carsons remarks to them.

The Holocaust-slaves; Pol Pot-slaves; Stalin-slaves; Korean War-slaves (plenty of them) and so on. Whats the trouble? You claimed Dr Carson wasn't qualified to speak of historical events but in an attempt to discredit him you listed examples of governments that turned people into ...slaves. Not a single one of them started off with slaves or murder they first had to gain control of the people before they could. Like Obamadon'tcare does to our own people.

So once again, go ahead and tell the rest of us how slavery is worse than slavery.
 
So you're sticking to the idea that literally nothing has been worse than Obamacare, since slavery? Because I think World War 2 is worse than Obamacare. Holocaust. Japanese internment. Mass civilian casualties. Half a million dead American troops...but I guess you think Obamacare is worse than 500,000 dead American troops...

LOL. Those troops didn't die for slavery, they died for freedom of the American people. Freedom that Obamadon'tcare takes away.

Hitler and the Emperor of Japan didn't mind having slaves listed on their resume. The knew how to exercise control of people to get what they wanted. Our government does too, Obamadon'tcare.
 
Try to make sense, "war, murder and rape are now "slavery,"??? Who on this side said any such thing? I haven't gone back and looked, but I am quite confident that you are doing a little manipulation of the facts there. Please read my previous post regarding American inflicted injuries upon fellow Americans, not your every tragedy ever to come to pass thrown in with the kitchen sinks argument, so vaaaaaaaa-pid as to be...

Post #821. In order to stick to the notion that "nothing has been worse since slavery" Itaintfree has effectively (but only in his own mind) redefined all tragedies since then to be "slavery." If that's the peg you want to hang your coat on, have at it. I can't stop you from destroying your own credibility if you're set on it.
 
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What I take from this discussion is that, while not too surprising, there are people just as stunningly irrational as he is.

LOL. Now if you believe in freedom, you are irrational? You -ists take the cake.

For an encore what do you propose our government force our citizens to do next?
 
I know. Facts have a liberal bias, as does reality so I hear. :lamo:lamo:lamo
Well, since you have proven very well through your beyond ill informed positions that you cannot/do not want to see, I am sure you have been hearing lots of things... none of which seem anywhere closer to reality than what you cannot/do not want to see.
 
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