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Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

Boo Radley said:
You are incorrect. I took two of the points and explain why they were not racist. Your response was to name call. Is this where I say typical conservative response?

Now, I'm not going to that for all of them, especially since you never responded to the two in a rational way. Communication is rarely clear. If you have to read into it, there is always the real possibility that you read it wrong. When you never even consider that possibility, you are the problem.
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On the New Black Panthers slam dunk prosecution of a racial-intimidation-at-the-polls case... you just pooh poohed that the prosecutor in the case had no real knowledge of the case...

The others they were so much liberal light commentary, such superfluous fluff, that I cannot specifically remember what you even said...fact of the matter is the two were very telling, with a President jumping in, absent any real knowledge of circumstances, into these two cases where he had absolutely no business, risking political capital in unjust protection of someone of his own race... has he done something similar for a white person? Or maybe a Hispanic person [ unless it was against a white person maybe? ]... the guy discriminates... he threw his grandmother under his campaign bus in an attempt to assuage potential voters when media finally caught on to the fact that he had, with his family, attended a radical black, some might easily characterize it as a racist church what with its blaming white America for just about all its ills, church for 20 plus years...

Listen, this is just padding your stacks, your mounds of fluff and while every once in a while its nice to slice into that deep meringue, exposing there is not even any lemon gelatin under all that fuzz, it is sort of a waste for the fact that you cannot even comprehend that you have been dealt a hand that cannot win, no matter how much huff you add to the fluff ...with which you try to bluff.:lamo:lamo:lamo
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
On the New Black Panthers slam dunk prosecution of a racial-intimidation-at-the-polls case... you just pooh poohed that the prosecutor in the case had no real knowledge of the case...

The others they were so much liberal light commentary, such superfluous fluff, that I cannot specifically remember what you even said...fact of the matter is the two were very telling, with a President jumping in, absent any real knowledge of circumstances, into these two cases where he had absolutely no business, risking political capital in unjust protection of someone of his own race... has he done something similar for a white person? Or maybe a Hispanic person [ unless it was against a white person maybe? ]... the guy discriminates... he threw his grandmother under his campaign bus in an attempt to assuage potential voters when media finally caught on to the fact that he had, with his family, attended a radical black, some might easily characterize it as a racist church what with its blaming white America for just about all its ills, church for 20 plus years...

Listen, this is just padding your stacks, your mounds of fluff and while every once in a while its nice to slice into that deep meringue, exposing there is not even any lemon gelatin under all that fuzz, it is sort of a waste for the fact that you cannot even comprehend that you have been dealt a hand that cannot win, no matter how much huff you add to the fluff ...with which you try to bluff.:lamo:lamo:lamo
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http://www.debatepolitics.com/penalty-box/175473-dudeturtle-aka-bitch-tits-2.html#post1062433751

post here.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
On the New Black Panthers slam dunk prosecution of a racial-intimidation-at-the-polls case... you just pooh poohed that the prosecutor in the case had no real knowledge of the case...

The others they were so much liberal light commentary, such superfluous fluff, that I cannot specifically remember what you even said...fact of the matter is the two were very telling, with a President jumping in, absent any real knowledge of circumstances, into these two cases where he had absolutely no business, risking political capital in unjust protection of someone of his own race... has he done something similar for a white person? Or maybe a Hispanic person [ unless it was against a white person maybe? ]... the guy discriminates... he threw his grandmother under his campaign bus in an attempt to assuage potential voters when media finally caught on to the fact that he had, with his family, attended a radical black, some might easily characterize it as a racist church what with its blaming white America for just about all its ills, church for 20 plus years...

Listen, this is just padding your stacks, your mounds of fluff and while every once in a while its nice to slice into that deep meringue, exposing there is not even any lemon gelatin under all that fuzz, it is sort of a waste for the fact that you cannot even comprehend that you have been dealt a hand that cannot win, no matter how much huff you add to the fluff ...with which you try to bluff.
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Do you realize the New Black Panthers hate President Obama?
 
Cardinal said:
No True Scotsman.
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I would have to admit you are absolutely correct...I am, and very proudly more consider myself, a True American.



Cardinal said:
I knew that one of Carson's defenders in this thread was actually the first to inject even the notion of racism into this discussion, so I went back to the first page and found that that person was, interestingly enough, you.
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Hey, spiking an opponent's points is a time honored debate tactic. We all know the usual race tirade prior to the ubiquitous playing of that, the race card, by your side. One especially knows this, that with Black Conservatives, the modern liberal version of the Fugitive Slave Act, to get these recalcitrant Blacks back on the Democrat government Plantation, will be applied. This is my version of the invoking of the Personal Liberty Laws to counter all that.

Oh, and spiking your argument is not baiting there... don't quite know what to call you, a bird, a man of cloth high on the totem or... a number... I'll just call you bud... so spiking is not baiting, bud.



Cardinal said:
Until you wrote that I don't think it would have occurred to anyone that race was any kind of angle to the topic. But then, why should I be surprised? After all, war, murder and rape are now "slavery," and plagues that kill tens of millions of people have no bearing on history. At that point, why not inject racism into the discussion? In fact, let's just find a place to put bestiality somewhere, because screw it, sky's the limit now.
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Are you kidding me? What a laugh... you see, that's what is wrong with you folks on that side, you think we are not only evil, but naive as well...wrong.

Try to make sense, "war, murder and rape are now "slavery,"??? Who on this side said any such thing? I haven't gone back and looked, but I am quite confident that you are doing a little manipulation of the facts there. Please read my previous post regarding American inflicted injuries upon fellow Americans, not your every tragedy ever to come to pass thrown in with the kitchen sinks argument, so vaaaaaaaa-pid as to be...

Well...no use kicking you while you are down.
 
pbrauer said:
Do you realize the New Black Panthers hate President Obama?
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A lot of the people on the left have grown to hate Obama...this was way back in '08 there, bud...

And I am not talking about what the NBP think now, its what Obama and Holder did back then. Undeniable.

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pbrauer said:
Are you kidding? Dr. Carson has said Obamacare is worse than Slavery. That is similar, in a way telling a Jewish person the Holocaust never happened. It's a bigoted statement even if it told by a Jewish person.
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Doooood, how many times do you folks have to be taught to read more closely... what Dr. Carson actually said was that Obamadon'tcare is the worst thing since [ not the same as the word than, than being used for comparisons, since means after in time, yanno?]. To be an applicable analogy in the manner to which you wanted it to be applied, even tho it is wrong from the get-go, would require that Dr. Carson would have had to have said that Slavery never happened.

None of that did Dr. Carson say...so, kinda a feeble attempt to assert something that never happened or was even contemplated. Need to work on that kinda tactic, work on it meaning: best just ditch it as a method, it being absent of intelligent utilization.

Just saying...
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
On the New Black Panthers slam dunk prosecution of a racial-intimidation-at-the-polls case... you just pooh poohed that the prosecutor in the case had no real knowledge of the case...

The others they were so much liberal light commentary, such superfluous fluff, that I cannot specifically remember what you even said...fact of the matter is the two were very telling, with a President jumping in, absent any real knowledge of circumstances, into these two cases where he had absolutely no business, risking political capital in unjust protection of someone of his own race... has he done something similar for a white person? Or maybe a Hispanic person [ unless it was against a white person maybe? ]... the guy discriminates... he threw his grandmother under his campaign bus in an attempt to assuage potential voters when media finally caught on to the fact that he had, with his family, attended a radical black, some might easily characterize it as a racist church what with its blaming white America for just about all its ills, church for 20 plus years...

Listen, this is just padding your stacks, your mounds of fluff and while every once in a while its nice to slice into that deep meringue, exposing there is not even any lemon gelatin under all that fuzz, it is sort of a waste for the fact that you cannot even comprehend that you have been dealt a hand that cannot win, no matter how much huff you add to the fluff ...with which you try to bluff.:lamo:lamo:lamo
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You're almost always factually challenged:

But the pundits have often blurred the distinction between the civil and criminal cases. O'Reilly and other Fox commentators have confused the issue by suggesting Holder and the Obama administration made the call not to pursue more serious charges against the New Black Panther Party members. Perez stated that the Civil Rights Division decided pre-Obama not to pursue more serious, criminal charges. So when O'Reilly brings on legal analysts who paint it as an outrage that the Justice Department did not pursue a criminal case, and the only person condemned by O'Reilly is Holder for not "representing the United States in a fair and balanced way," that's misleading and misplaced. We think it's fair to hold Holder accountable for the decision to limit the civil case, but not the criminal one. We rate O'Reilly's statement False.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...reilly-blames-obama-administration-not-pursu/
 
Boo Radley said:
You're almost always factually challenged:

But the pundits have often blurred the distinction between the civil and criminal cases. O'Reilly and other Fox commentators have confused the issue by suggesting Holder and the Obama administration made the call not to pursue more serious charges against the New Black Panther Party members. Perez stated that the Civil Rights Division decided pre-Obama not to pursue more serious, criminal charges. So when O'Reilly brings on legal analysts who paint it as an outrage that the Justice Department did not pursue a criminal case, and the only person condemned by O'Reilly is Holder for not "representing the United States in a fair and balanced way," that's misleading and misplaced. We think it's fair to hold Holder accountable for the decision to limit the civil case, but not the criminal one. We rate O'Reilly's statement False.

PolitiFact | Bill O'Reilly blames Obama administration for not pursuing criminal charges in New Black Panther Party case
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As I said, not looking at your biased "partisan"fact site... read the book, or concede. Or read the book and concede... doesn't matter to me, just the truth matters.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Read the book Injustice and then get back to me.
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Pure fiction.


Former Department of Justice lawyer and New Black Panthers fabulist J. Christian Adams has found a way to cash in on last year's manufactured scandal. On October 4, right-wing outlet Regnery Publishing will release Adams' first book, "Injustice: Exposing the Racial Agenda of the Obama Justice Department."


According to the description provided to Amazon.com, Adams' book will expand on his oft-repeated claims that DOJ practices racially-motivated enforcement of the law, focusing in particular on his fanciful recounting of the Justice Department's handling of the New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case:


Revealing unknown and startling examples of racism and corruption at the local, state, and federal level,Injustice exposes a Justice Department that is anything but just.

Justice is supposed to be blind, especially to race and politics. Yet as Department of Justice (DOJ) whistleblower J. Christian Adams divulges in his shocking expose Injustice, justice under the Obama administration is anything but blind. Here, Adams reveals the never-before-published truth about the corrupt, racist, and politicized inner workings of the Obama Justice Department, as well as the untold story of the DOJ's corrupt handling of the New Black Panther voter-intimidation case. As a former Department of Justice attorney in the civil rights division, Adams has witnessed firsthand how the DOJ is aggressively executing a racist and radical left-wing agenda through its policies and employees. After watching the DOJ continually turn a blind eye to voter fraud, blatant racism, and voter rights abuses, Adams finally blew the whistle during the New Black Panther case--a case that Adams brought to the DOJ's attention and ultimately resigned over because of the corruption and perjury he witnessed leading up to and following the case's orchestrated dismissal.
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Michael Yaki, a Democratic member of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission who led the opposition to the Commission's flawed investigation of the New Black Panther Party case, predicted to Media Matters that Adams' book would be "a warmed over-retread of his allegations that never got traction and which an independent watchdog within Justice cleared of any political or racial overtones.

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http://mediamatters.org/blog/2011/08/11/fiction-writer-j-christian-adams-has-a-book-dea/149689


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Gaugingcatenate said:
As I said, not looking at your biased "partisan"fact site... read the book, or concede. Or read the book and concede... doesn't matter to me, just the truth matters.
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The "Book" is BS and Politifact is not partisan.
 
ChezC3 said:
Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery « CBS DC
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From now on I'm going to listen to my doctor's political opinions - and vote for him, too! - and I'm going to let my congressman operate on me. I think we can all agree that makes sense.

So Obamacare is worse than World Wars I and II? It's worse than the dustbowl, and it's worse than 9/11? It's worse than the Oklahoma City bombing and McCarthy and the Teapot Dome Scandal? Is it worse than Hiroshima? Is it worse than Nagasaki? Is it worse than the Bay of Pigs and the Cold War? It's worse than the Lewinsky scandal? It's worse than the Hoover administration and the Carter administration? It's worse than Jim Crow? Health care reform is worse than all of those things?

Just goes to show how ridiculously slanted some people are. A lot of people who never had health care will have health care now, and most conservatives have no idea what they're so upset about. Having to pay more for health care you don't want is a legitimate thing to be upset about... but it ain't Hiroshima, dog.
 
pbrauer said:
Pure fiction.


Former Department of Justice lawyer and New Black Panthers fabulist J. Christian Adams has found a way to cash in on last year's manufactured scandal. On October 4, right-wing outlet Regnery Publishing will release Adams' first book, "Injustice: Exposing the Racial Agenda of the Obama Justice Department."


According to the description provided to Amazon.com, Adams' book will expand on his oft-repeated claims that DOJ practices racially-motivated enforcement of the law, focusing in particular on his fanciful recounting of the Justice Department's handling of the New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case:


Revealing unknown and startling examples of racism and corruption at the local, state, and federal level,Injustice exposes a Justice Department that is anything but just.

Justice is supposed to be blind, especially to race and politics. Yet as Department of Justice (DOJ) whistleblower J. Christian Adams divulges in his shocking expose Injustice, justice under the Obama administration is anything but blind. Here, Adams reveals the never-before-published truth about the corrupt, racist, and politicized inner workings of the Obama Justice Department, as well as the untold story of the DOJ's corrupt handling of the New Black Panther voter-intimidation case. As a former Department of Justice attorney in the civil rights division, Adams has witnessed firsthand how the DOJ is aggressively executing a racist and radical left-wing agenda through its policies and employees. After watching the DOJ continually turn a blind eye to voter fraud, blatant racism, and voter rights abuses, Adams finally blew the whistle during the New Black Panther case--a case that Adams brought to the DOJ's attention and ultimately resigned over because of the corruption and perjury he witnessed leading up to and following the case's orchestrated dismissal.
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Michael Yaki, a Democratic member of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission who led the opposition to the Commission's flawed investigation of the New Black Panther Party case, predicted to Media Matters that Adams' book would be "a warmed over-retread of his allegations that never got traction and which an independent watchdog within Justice cleared of any political or racial overtones.

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Fiction Writer J. Christian Adams Has A Book Deal | Blog | Media Matters for America


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No way, say it a'int so, Joe...you mean the politically progressive Media Matters and a Democratic member of the US Civil Rights Division cannot see the merits of the truth in this book, eh?

Somehow I do not find that so hard to believe, at least the bias on the part of MM and Yaki yak yak...what a joke, why even post something like that?
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
No way, say it a'int so, Joe...you mean the politically progressive Media Matters and a Democratic member of the US Civil Rights Division cannot see the merits of the truth in this book, eh?

Somehow I do not find that so hard to believe, at least the bias on the part of MM and Yaki yak yak...what a joke, why even post something like that?
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What about the bias of J. Christian Adams ****ing book of lies?
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Best things about Dr. Carson are that he is super articulate, he is absolutely fearless, he cannot be called a racist credibly and he is, in fact, an actual brain surgeon...so his intellectual abilities are beyond question.
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Dr.Carson has a brilliant mind,and not an ounce of common sense!
 
oncewas said:
Dr.Carson has a brilliant mind,and not an ounce of common sense!
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This is a debate website, have anything besides a silly opinion to offer?

He has nailed this topic and, beyond common sense, which, apparently, is not all that common anymore, he has the guts to tell it straight out. Everyone that has half a brain has an opinion... and while accusing someone else of not having common sense and then providing no supporting evidence for such on a debate website, one has to question just what senses, and lack thereof, are being entertained here.

And while you gave no backup as to his brilliance, the facts are that Dr. Carson does have a brilliant mind and the skills to go along with it, who, at the age of only 33, became the youngest major division director in Johns Hopkins University history, director of their pediatric neurosurgery. He was the first to successfully operate on conjoined twins and has written 4 best selling books...
 
I do not see why should you not spare some of your money to the physical well being of your fellow countrymen. It would be an act of care and solidarity. Even if it would be taken for granted later I think it is worth the effort.
 
Mustachio said:
From now on I'm going to listen to my doctor's political opinions - and vote for him, too! - and I'm going to let my congressman operate on me. I think we can all agree that makes sense.

So Obamacare is worse than World Wars I and II? It's worse than the dustbowl, and it's worse than 9/11? It's worse than the Oklahoma City bombing and McCarthy and the Teapot Dome Scandal? Is it worse than Hiroshima? Is it worse than Nagasaki? Is it worse than the Bay of Pigs and the Cold War? It's worse than the Lewinsky scandal? It's worse than the Hoover administration and the Carter administration? It's worse than Jim Crow? Health care reform is worse than all of those things?

Just goes to show how ridiculously slanted some people are. A lot of people who never had health care will have health care now, and most conservatives have no idea what they're so upset about. Having to pay more for health care you don't want is a legitimate thing to be upset about... but it ain't Hiroshima, dog.
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You jump into the conversation way late and did not do your home work, your due dilligence to read the various previous posts [ the conversations, the context and vital information ] over very thoroughly beforehand ...that would've more or less obviated your less than thought out, already been tried, attempts... probably give you maybe a D- on that and as to logic, well... see me after class.

Oh, and if you want to appear hip, you still don't wear a bow tie...and its not dog, its dawg, dawg.
 
DDD said:
I do not see why should you not spare some of your money to the physical well being of your fellow countrymen. It would be an act of care and solidarity. Even if it would be taken for granted later I think it is worth the effort.
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I think that very well might be true, and very well may not be... but go ahead...spend YOUR money, don't assume to obligate me to spend money on what you think we should spare our dollars on...

The fact of the matter is many still will not really be covered, the rest of us will not be as well covered, government will have burrowed deeper into our lives and it will cost us all more with less care...
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
I think that very well might be true, and very well may not be... but go ahead...spend YOUR money, don't assume to obligate me to spend money on what you think we should spare our dollars on...
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If you do not want your fellow countrymen to be healthy then that is not just selfishness and greed! I think it is more about being part of neglecting people to death.

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The fact of the matter is many still will not really be covered, the rest of us will not be as well covered, government will have burrowed deeper into our lives and it will cost us all more with less care...
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So why is this called the affordable act then? Is it not to make it more available to the rest of you also?
 
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