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Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

So murder and wars = slavery.

Right-o.

At least you admit the Great Flu Epidemic is worse than Obamacare. Christ on toast that's something at least.

Didn't admit anything. Try sticking to your own words.


Back to your remarks. In those listed "murder and wars", slavery was a part of each. No wonder you think Dr Carson was wrong. You don't know squat about history. Consider taking some remedial history at your local Jr High School, maybe this time around you'll pick up on some of it.
 
IF the Romans wanted to make sure that everyone had access to healthcare, I highly doubt that Jesus would have stood before Pilot and told him that this act is not the will of God.

With all due respect, who cares what you think Jesus would have done? We have a whole book of what he preached, and no where in that book do I see him advocating larger central government.

I'm not saying that everything should go through the government, but defense and healthcare should be on their todo list.

Defense is in Article 1 Section 8, Health Insurance is NOT! Period!!!! You are just simply wrong. IF you want to change that, then you should do it constitutionally and AMEND the constitution.
 
Didn't admit anything. Try sticking to your own words.


Back to your remarks. In those listed "murder and wars", slavery was a part of each. No wonder you think Dr Carson was wrong. You don't know squat about history. Consider taking some remedial history at your local Jr High School, maybe this time around you'll pick up on some of it.

Not going to touch the war and murder thing because you're so far beyond reason on that point that it's really not worth going into, but do you really think that the PPACA (which, keep in mind, hasn't actually gone into effect yet) is worse than the flu epidemic that killed between thirty and fifty million people? Or are you going to change your mind and decide that the flu is slavery too?
 
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Hard to keep up with just who your prevarications and dodges are meant for, eh? This post, I believe, is meant for another poster....

But I will comment.... I have listened to that speech... he threw his grandmother under the bus, his white grandmother who, unlike his Marxist [ among the many other unbecoming traits ] father, did not abandon him...took care, nurtured him, her wealth obviously allowing him a good education...was it a private school education...ahhh...but I digress...

You only have to read, or listen to the now president read to you, his own words in his own book to understand the "different" idea he has about white people... those who brought him up and others...then match that up with how he has responded to things a president should NEVER get involved with unless an actual injustice is manifestly taking place, and in the three cases I brought up, injustice manifestly was NOT taking place.

But the voluntarily blind will not see that... and with your continuing dodges and dismissives of proof positions, you have proven your total inability to see anything valid on the point.

No, it was meant for you, and the other. Just someone else dealing with the claims your side makes.

See, its not a dodge when you or someone else makes a wild claim, and we respond with that's silly. That's the proper response. there's nothing to prove from this side. You can Obama is a finger chewing cannibal and no one has to prove he isn't. You can trow all kinds of silliness out there, but until you actually show something that makes the case, it's just silliness. And that's all you are doing.
 
Not going to touch the war and murder thing because you're so far beyond reason on that point that it's really not worth going into, but do you really think that the PPACA (which, keep in mind, hasn't actually gone into effect yet) is worse than the flu epidemic that killed between thirty and fifty million people? Or are you going to change your mind and decide that the flu is slavery too?

No, go ahead and touch the war and murder thing. War and murder were not the first steps taken. Explain what happened to people's freedom and liberty before it reached the slave point which was before the war part, if you are aware. It's well worth going into.
 
No, go ahead and touch the war and murder thing. War and murder were not the first steps taken. Explain what happened to people's freedom and liberty before it reached the slave point which was before the war part, if you are aware. It's well worth going into.

Do you think a plague that killed 30-50 million people is worse than the PPACA? I really don't see why you have such a hard time answering the question. All it requires is a yes or no.
 
Didn't admit anything. Try sticking to your own words.


Back to your remarks. In those listed "murder and wars", slavery was a part of each. No wonder you think Dr Carson was wrong. You don't know squat about history. Consider taking some remedial history at your local Jr High School, maybe this time around you'll pick up on some of it.

So you're sticking to the idea that literally nothing has been worse than Obamacare, since slavery? Because I think World War 2 is worse than Obamacare. Holocaust. Japanese internment. Mass civilian casualties. Half a million dead American troops...but I guess you think Obamacare is worse than 500,000 dead American troops...
 
No, it was meant for you, and the other. Just someone else dealing with the claims your side makes.

See, its not a dodge when you or someone else makes a wild claim, and we respond with that's silly. That's the proper response. there's nothing to prove from this side. You can Obama is a finger chewing cannibal and no one has to prove he isn't. You can trow all kinds of silliness out there, but until you actually show something that makes the case, it's just silliness. And that's all you are doing.
Quintessential liberal set of answers... could go back through all your posts on this thread and probably not find a single fact, not one decent defense against the valid claims and evidence presented...

Kinda reminds me of a disappointing restaurant outing ordering ribs. When the meal finally arrives you find, to your great dismay, that there is a whole lot of fat, hard bones and hardly any, or no real, meat...how it differs is that you do not even offer good sides like garlic toast and fries, just the greasy fat on bones.
 
Not going to touch the war and murder thing because you're so far beyond reason on that point that it's really not worth going into, but do you really think that the PPACA (which, keep in mind, hasn't actually gone into effect yet) is worse than the flu epidemic that killed between thirty and fifty million people? Or are you going to change your mind and decide that the flu is slavery too?

Do you think a plague that killed 30-50 million people is worse than the PPACA? I really don't see why you have such a hard time answering the question. All it requires is a yes or no.

So you're sticking to the idea that literally nothing has been worse than Obamacare, since slavery? Because I think World War 2 is worse than Obamacare. Holocaust. Japanese internment. Mass civilian casualties. Half a million dead American troops...but I guess you think Obamacare is worse than 500,000 dead American troops...
What is being discussed here are not acts of god, natural disasters, world wide catastrophic events or attacks on Americans by anti-Americans from the outside...we are talking about Americans doing something bad to fellow Americans.

I would say that the Japanese-American internment by another Imperial styled Democrat president might be, indeed, competitive with Obamadon'tcare... except that this debacle was in time of war and it was not targeting all Americans...besides which it was not set to last forever, it was over in about two years.
 
Quintessential liberal set of answers... could go back through all your posts on this thread and probably not find a single fact, not one decent defense against the valid claims and evidence presented...

Kinda reminds me of a disappointing restaurant outing ordering ribs. When the meal finally arrives you find, to your great dismay, that there is a whole lot of fat, hard bones and hardly any, or no real, meat...how it differs is that you do not even offer good sides like garlic toast and fries, just the greasy fat on bones.

You are incorrect. I took two of the points and explain why they were not racist. Your response was to name call. Is this where I say typical conservative response?

Now, I'm not going to that for all of them, especially since you never responded to the two in a rational way. Communication is rarely clear. If you have to read into it, there is always the real possibility that you read it wrong. When you never even consider that possibility, you are the problem.
 
What is being discussed here are not acts of god, natural disasters, world wide catastrophic events or attacks on Americans by anti-Americans from the outside...we are talking about Americans doing something bad to fellow Americans.

I would say that the Japanese-American internment by another Imperial styled Democrat president might be, indeed, competitive with Obamadon'tcare... except that this debacle was in time of war and it was not targeting all Americans...besides which it was not set to last forever, it was over in about two years.


Somewhere a Scotsman's head just exploded.
 
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Yes Carson is that big of an immoral idiot.

What I take from this discussion is that, while not too surprising, there are people just as stunningly irrational as he is.
 
What has bearing if you think somebody is a race baiter or not?

While I think Obama is, indeed racist, I do not hear him being called that all the time... and just because you are white has no bearing on whether someone is a racist or not...

Show me some credible information, with trustworthy sources, wherein Dr. Carson has said something racist.

Slavery has been committed on all races by all races...so maybe the humanity card?
 
I can think of many many many many things "worse" than Obamacare since slavery.
 
What has bearing if you think somebody is a race baiter or not?
I would say, offhand, that someone who for no real reason brings up race and tries to egg others either into defense or alliance with views that are only meant to drive a wedge between races and to gain partisan points.

That match up with your idea of race baiting, does it? And, why perchance, do you ask? Maybe you could be a little more clear at what it is you are attempting to say.
 
Being of Scot's heritage, your oblique reference has no real/apparent meaning... but in that manner does fall in line with many of your other posts...

No True Scotsman.

I would say, offhand, that someone who for no real reason brings up race and tries to egg others either into defense or alliance with views that are only meant to drive a wedge between races and to gain partisan points.

That match up with your idea of race baiting, does it? And, why perchance, do you ask? Maybe you could be a little more clear at what it is you are attempting to say.

I knew that one of Carson's defenders in this thread was actually the first to inject even the notion of racism into this discussion, so I went back to the first page and found that that person was, interestingly enough, you.

Best things about Dr. Carson are that he is super articulate, he is absolutely fearless, he cannot be called a racist credibly and he is, in fact, an actual brain surgeon...so his intellectual abilities are beyond question.

Until you wrote that I don't think it would have occurred to anyone that race was any kind of angle to the topic. But then, why should I be surprised? After all, war, murder and rape are now "slavery," and plagues that kill tens of millions of people have no bearing on history. At that point, why not inject racism into the discussion? In fact, let's just find a place to put bestiality somewhere, because screw it, sky's the limit now.
 
While I think Obama is, indeed racist, I do not hear him being called that all the time... and just because you are white has no bearing on whether someone is a racist or not...

Show me some credible information, with trustworthy sources, wherein Dr. Carson has said something racist.

Slavery has been committed on all races by all races...so maybe the humanity card?
Are you kidding? Dr. Carson has said Obamacare is worse than Slavery. That is similar, in a way telling a Jewish person the Holocaust never happened. It's a bigoted statement even if it told by a Jewish person.
 
Are you kidding? Dr. Carson has said Obamacare is worse than Slavery. That is similar, in a way telling a Jewish person the Holocaust never happened. It's a bigoted statement even if it told by a Jewish person.

Okay, fine, it would have occurred to someone to bring racism up. Still though, Gaugingcatenate was the first one to do it.
 
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