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Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

Henrin said:
I have looked into it and according to my finding I will be taxed about $200 grand if I decide to leave. :/
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That's what Hitler did to Jews who tried to leave Germany.
 
apdst said:
You used a regime approved op-ed and you don't understand why that didn't support your argument?!? :lamo

Allow me to be more specific: using the text of Section 1233--the death panel section--show us how it's such an important part of the bill and how it's removal harmed people.
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:lamo:lamo:lamo

In other words, you are merely looking for an excuse.
 
Boo Radley said:
:lamo:lamo:lamo

In other words, you are merely looking for an excuse.
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IOW, I'm waiting for you to prove me wrong, which you're drifting father way from with every post.
 
Boo Radley said:
You have been wrong about many things. Your wrong here as well. The patient can't make wise decisions without information. And being in a life and death situation isn't the best time to be a consumer. Buyer beware doesn't work well in such situations, which is largely the problem with medicine as widget mentality.
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And a government bureaucrat will be right there to provide that information and the wise decision!
 
Henrin said:
Medicine is a service provided by people that have the right to decide on how they will offer it. The government should not be ordering people around that did nothing wrong.
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So are police and firefighters. And regulations can be found for food, transportation, or nearly any thing that can adversely affect the consumer. And those are not under the direst of a serious illness.

So, spare me your tripe.
 
Grant said:
And a government bureaucrat will be right there to provide that information and the wise decision!
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No. A doctor. You guys never get this right. You have more. To fear from your insurance provider, who really is between you and your doctor. And he works for your employer, not you.
 
johndylan1 said:
Do you remember what I was saying about leftist emotionalism? : )
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1. Posit a ridiculous strawman.
2. Wait for inevitable burning of said strawman.
3. Wank about "leftist emotionalism."
4. ???
5. Profit.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
I am trying to put a good handle on just what to call that mini rant of silly notions/positions...would those "thoughts" be classified racists positions or maybe implied-tokenist postions, or diverse-if-you-think-like-I-doisms...or what exactly?

While willingly conceding that you may genuinely have more familiarity with true nuts, I think most reasoning folk would be hard put to call Dr. Carson a nut... if that were so, better get your blind donkeys to start rutting around for one anywhere near as effective...
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Dr Carson may be a decent Doctor, but he will never be President of the USA.
 
Boo Radley said:
So are police and firefighters. And regulations can be found for food, transportation, or nearly any thing that can adversely affect the consumer. And those are not under the direst of a serious illness.
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Police officers and firefighters are employees of the state, so of course they are told what to do by the state. Things that are privately owned and operated the owners have the right to operate in the way they see fit and provide the service they desire to offer without being told what to do by the state or having to get approval by the state.

So, spare me your tripe.
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Human rights are not tripe.
 
johndylan1 said:
Obamacare fundamentally changes the relationship between government and its citizens.
Up until now government has not been able to direct citizens to purchase products against their will, and under the penalty of law.
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 This means government is no longer a protector of rights; government is now an agency of forced labor, to the extent that it takes to afford the required purchase.
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Wrong.

Did you ever try to go without auto insurance?
 
Henrin said:
Police officers and firefighters are employees of the state, so of course they are told what to do by the state. Things that are privately owned and operated the owners have the right to operate in the way they see fit and provide the service they desire to offer without being told what to do by the state or having to get approval by the state.



Human rights are not tripe.
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Median ice is as much a public service as police and fire fighting. It has been miscast from the beginning. But these were not the only examples I gave you. Did you skip to avoid?

And as as human rights are not being violated, you act is tripe.
 
Deuce said:
I am for medicare. Does this mean I am for slavery?
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Well, if you are for all the socials, security, elderly care, forced health care...progressive income taxes... sure beginning to sound like it...

How about the public school system? A national central bank? Inheritance taxes, or abolition of inheritance? Already fulfilled pretty many of the planks of the Communist Manifesto right there.

Do you believe that real life communism equates to freedom, do you?
 
shrubnose said:
That's your problem and I have zero sympathy for you.
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I never asked for your sympathy. I am however wondering how a state can justify taxing people for leaving the country for good.
 
Boo Radley said:
Median ice is as much a public service as police and fire fighting. It has been miscast from the beginning. But these were not the only examples I gave you. Did you skip to avoid?
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Median Ice?

And as as human rights are not being violated, you act is tripe.
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What makes you think the government can tell people how to live their lives and somehow not violate their rights?
 
Henrin said:
I never asked for your sympathy.
I am however wondering how a state can justify taxing people for leaving the country for good.
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That's a good question and I'm sorry that I don't have a good answer.

But guess what - I do agree that it does seem totally unfair.

Like a lot of things in life.
 
shrubnose said:
Dr Carson may be a decent Doctor, but he will never be President of the USA.
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Hey, if a log splitter turned attorney could do it, if a haberdasher could, if a peanut farmer, if a B actor could become a great one, if a community organizer can, if a former major league team owner/ oil speculator can do it... well, lets just say the future remains to be seen and I would guess your predictions seem premature at best...

...and I think we can let it go at that, for now...;)
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
But the chances are pretty slim...I am thinking none... but sure, just about anything can happen.

Didn't, but it could.
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Jury is out on that---he's clearly not a gun nut, but he is a homophobe and the comment about ACA being akin to slavery is off the hook.
 
calamity said:
Jury is out on that---he's clearly not a gun nut, but he is a homophobe and the comment about ACA being akin to slavery is off the hook.
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I think his anti-gay comments will torch any presidential aspirations worse than this insane but forgettable ACA kerfuffle. If he even has any.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Hey, if a log splitter turned attorney could do it, if a haberdasher could, if a peanut farmer, if a B actor could become a great one, if a community organizer can, if a former major league team owner/ oil speculator can do it... well, lets just say the future remains to be seen and I would guess your predictions seem premature at best...

...and I think we can let it go at that, for now...
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I'll just add that what I posted is just my opinion, maybe I'm wrong but we'll have to wait and see.
 
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