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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Are we not all tired of this lame excuse for a failure of a Presidency, and a huge waste of time in a fragile period?
    It's all about racist hate and obstructing Obama. But it's simply a matter of the GOP destroying the teabagger influence that's destroying their party. It's beginning to happen and that's good for Obama too.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    It's all about racist hate and obstructing Obama.
    Come on man, you can't really believe that, can you? It all sounds so childish, the name calling (ie; teabaggers, etc.), the inflammatory nature of it all, and derision of those in opposition, and only exacerbated by this rhetoric.

    But it's simply a matter of the GOP destroying the teabagger influence that's destroying their party.
    I am actually not looking forward to anything like that. The influences of progressive republicans like McCain, and Graham does more to help liberal progressives then anything that strong opposition to those in favor of one party, top down, centralized government like yourself.

    It's beginning to happen and that's good for Obama too.
    I'd say just the opposite....

    "Ten Senate Democrats have signed on to a letter crafted by Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) urging the Obama administration to extend the open enrollment period for the recently launched health-care exchanges.
    Shaheen called for the extension this week in light of myriad problems with the HealthCare.gov Web site."

    10 Senate Democrats sign Shaheen letter pushing for open enrollment extension
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There is no evidence it was unconstitutional before. If an issue hasn't been up before doesn't mean it was unconstitutional before. You're making a logic error I think.
    There's evidence that it's unconstitutional NOW - I've already established that. My comment was not limited to just this. I was referring to the barrage of constitution tramplings in the supreme court where things that have been unconstitutional for 230+ years, suddenly are not. The judges are getting away with it and people don't care because they think if it hasn't affected them, then there's no threat. Grave mistake.

    Provisions in the NDAA and certain executive orders give the government the LEGAL right to put you to work "without compensation" AKA slavery, and to lock us up in camps. They don't try to hide it - the language is in there! The legal framework for our imprisonment and enslavement now exists. THEY JUST HAVEN'T USED IT YET. They won't until everything is in place. There is a delay and the delay must be that they are having problems with oathekeepers in the military. I'm not going off-topic because this all ties in.

    There's something about obamacare that plays a major role. Forced vaccinations that they plan to introduce? The reason I say this is because the FDA and it's long history of brazen transgressions that are never met with reprimand, with regard to it's suppression of cures for just about every disease known to man, prove without the slightest doubt that the government does not give a flying rat's ass about our health. Yet the way obama pushed this as top priority over far more important issues was just bizarre to me. You have to admit his being so adamant about it produced some awkward moments because senators were trying to resolve other more serious issues, and finally obama said something like "I'm not doing anything until we pass this bill".

    So, because they're game is so overused and cliche by now, I predict that they are going to put out a killer virus (that they made), and out of this will come the forced vaccinations. Now that they control socialized medicine they'll say "we can't afford for anyone else to get this virus, you WILL be vaccinated."

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    There's evidence that it's unconstitutional NOW - I've already established that. My comment was not limited to just this. I was referring to the barrage of constitution tramplings in the supreme court where things that have been unconstitutional for 230+ years, suddenly are not. The judges are getting away with it and people don't care because they think if it hasn't affected them, then there's no threat. Grave mistake.

    Provisions in the NDAA and certain executive orders give the government the LEGAL right to put you to work "without compensation" AKA slavery, and to lock us up in camps. They don't try to hide it - the language is in there! The legal framework for our imprisonment and enslavement now exists. THEY JUST HAVEN'T USED IT YET. They won't until everything is in place. There is a delay and the delay must be that they are having problems with oathekeepers in the military. I'm not going off-topic because this all ties in.

    There's something about obamacare that plays a major role. Forced vaccinations that they plan to introduce? The reason I say this is because the FDA and it's long history of brazen transgressions that are never met with reprimand, with regard to it's suppression of cures for just about every disease known to man, prove without the slightest doubt that the government does not give a flying rat's ass about our health. Yet the way obama pushed this as top priority over far more important issues was just bizarre to me. You have to admit his being so adamant about it produced some awkward moments because senators were trying to resolve other more serious issues, and finally obama said something like "I'm not doing anything until we pass this bill".

    So, because they're game is so overused and cliche by now, I predict that they are going to put out a killer virus (that they made), and out of this will come the forced vaccinations. Now that they control socialized medicine they'll say "we can't afford for anyone else to get this virus, you WILL be vaccinated."
    No, that is merely your interpretation. There is no conclusive evidence of this. The questions were not raised then.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    The only thing that is certain about the 'constitutional' argument is that teabaggers are experts at taking the normal course of law and making it out to be unconstitutional in order to fulfill their agenda or racism and hate.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, that is merely your interpretation. There is no conclusive evidence of this. The questions were not raised then.
    Do you think the government is honest with your best interest in mind?

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    Do you think the government is honest with your best interest in mind?
    Never said that, but it's not either / or. The point was there is no evidence that this was once unconstitutional as the question was even thought if then. So the courts are not changing anything.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, that is merely your interpretation. There is no conclusive evidence of this. The questions were not raised then.
    I outlined specifically how it is unconstitutional. I named the section and article, then explained how it violates the origination clause. I "interpreted" that it didn't originate in the senate because it didn't originate in the senate. It's conclusive because it's too late for them to change the source from where it originated. What questions were not raised when? Have all 32,000 of your posts been this weak?

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Never said that, but it's not either / or. The point was there is no evidence that this was once unconstitutional as the question was even thought if then. So the courts are not changing anything.
    Has the SCOTUS ever reversed itself?
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    I outlined specifically how it is unconstitutional. I named the section and article, then explained how it violates the origination clause. I "interpreted" that it didn't originate in the senate because it didn't originate in the senate. It's conclusive because it's too late for them to change the source from where it originated. What questions were not raised when? Have all 32,000 of your posts been this weak?
    Yes, I know. And that sees logical to you. I just don't thin you or I know enough. Many a false premise has stated with novices thinking they know it all clearly.

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