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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    What's your opinion on where those "disconnects" are? Very important to figure out what these are. Too many students are unprepared for college, and I don't mean just academically, although there is that. They are also too intellectually and emotionally immature to do the work.

    Remember "Why Can't Johnny Read?" That was a generation ago.
    Parents and legislators don't see all the factors that lead to success. Too many try to focus on one reason, and usually that doesn't include their own role. The pressures are focused in the wrong direction. As an educator, for example, I don't mind being held accountable or being assessed. I mind being held accountable for is not my job. Students are not shoes. This is a human profession and not like math. Each connection is different. A teacher who can reach one, is the wrong person for another. It's the nature of human relationships. And when we start off with the mindset that teachers are not to be respected, the effort becomes more difficult. I would encourage everyone to watch what students are saying as recorded by PBS. I have a link in the education section. There responses are surprisingly good.

    And yes, students today are too often emotionally immature, but the push by parents, legislators and school boards are to move them into college at younger and young ages. Look duel enrollment. I listen to one board meeting where it was discussed about how they could make sure students got an AA before graduating from HS. Remember, pressures effect jobs, and what is pushed for will happen, no matter how ugly it really is. Passing students along was never an educators push. Parents began the push, and administrators and even politicians picked up on it.

    As a country we've been working on this a long time. Politicians have been running every popular public effort imaginable, and yet with no results. While there would be better results if those in the field led the reform, the fact is the problems are large and the causes multiple. The more we try to make a simple solution, the further we get from the solutions.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nope, sorry Joe, but I remember our conversation very well, and with the technology of being able to go back and read, it is really easy....On page 85 you started diverting into wild assertions that I never made, in fact it was like, out of a long post you were only focused on a singular aspect that was between myself, and another poster, that I had already corrected. But, for a whole page you wanted to beat that horse, and then when you realized you were starting to look foolish, you switched the tact on the next page to reparations, which, while still relevant as a side conversation, still not what Dr. Carson was talking about. Then on the next page, you took that argument about reparations, and used it to insert "education" into the conversation. It is all right here....http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1062449842 and that is the first mention of education at all into the conversation, made by YOU....

    Now, just to recap, you insert yourself into a conversation dispute between myself, and another that is already settled, then you shift the conversation off topic by adding another issue, then you take it a step further by changing the focus all together by arguing totally off topic about education for the next 8 pages.

    Now, I really don't any longer want to talk about you, or your off topic diversions Joe, so if there is something about the thread that you'd like to discuss honestly, then by all means post it, and I will absolutely read it and respond, but I am not going to get into trouble by entertaining your wild diversions.

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    J, I'm sorry, but I'm worried about you. You don't follow this very well at all. You actually prove my point. Thanks.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    1***Parents and legislators don't see all the factors that lead to success. Too many try to focus on one reason, and usually that doesn't include their own role. The pressures are focused in the wrong direction. As an educator, for example, 2***I don't mind being held accountable or being assessed. 3***I mind being held accountable for is not my job. Students are not shoes. This is a human profession and not like math. Each connection is different. A teacher who can reach one, is the wrong person for another. It's the nature of human relationships. 4***And when we start off with the mindset that teachers are not to be respected, the effort becomes more difficult. I would encourage everyone to watch what students are saying as recorded by PBS. I have a link in the education section. There responses are surprisingly good.

    And yes, students today are too often emotionally immature, but the push by parents, legislators and school boards are to move them into college at younger and young ages.5*** Look duel enrollment. I listen to one board meeting where it was discussed about how they could make sure students got an AA before graduating from HS.6*** Remember, pressures effect jobs, and what is pushed for will happen, no matter how ugly it really is. Passing students along was never an educators push. Parents began the push, and administrators and even politicians picked up on it. 7***

    As a country we've been working on this a long time.8*** Politicians have been running every popular public effort imaginable, and yet with no results. While there would be better results if those in the field led the reform, the fact is the problems are large and the causes multiple9***. The more we try to make a simple solution, the further we get from the solutions.10***

    Ten translations from Edu-speak to English:
    Warning: Sarcasm ahead.

    1: Dang Parents and Politicians are always blaming others.
    2: I don't mind being held accountable or being assessed.
    3: Don't hold me accountable or assess me by my students' performance.
    4: WHY MY STUDENT NO RESPEC MY AUTHORITEH NEMORE>?
    5: These kids are emotional ****ups.
    6: These fools, trying to encourage their kids to be competitive in the workforce.
    7: Parents, administrators, and politicians: STOP PUSHING YOUR KIDS!
    8: I inherited this problem.
    9: Why don't you listen to us educators? The problems are too complicated for your feeble minds.
    10: What we really need is a solution so complicated that no one will understand how the **** anything works.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer View Post
    Ten translations from Edu-speak to English:
    Warning: Sarcasm ahead.

    1: Dang Parents and Politicians are always blaming others.
    2: I don't mind being held accountable or being assessed.
    3: Just don't hold me accountable or assess me by my students' performance.
    4: WHY MY STUDENT NO RESPEC MY AUTHORITEH NEMORE>?
    5: These kids are emotional ****ups.
    6: These fools, trying to encourage their kids to be competitive in the workforce.
    7: Parents, administrators, and politicians: STOP PUSHING YOUR KIDS!
    8: I inherited this problem.
    9: Why don't you listen to us educators? The problems are too complicated for your feeble minds.
    10: What we really need is a solution so complicated that no one will understand how the **** anything works.
    Wow that was certainly over the top and as poor a translation as I've ever seen. I guess I have learned you're not interested in actual understanding.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer View Post
    Ten translations from Edu-speak to English:
    Warning: Sarcasm ahead.
    1: Dang Parents and Politicians are always blaming others.
    2: I don't mind being held accountable or being assessed.
    3: Don't hold me accountable or assess me by my students' performance.
    4: WHY MY STUDENT NO RESPEC MY AUTHORITEH NEMORE>?
    5: These kids are emotional ****ups.
    6: These fools, trying to encourage their kids to be competitive in the workforce.
    7: Parents, administrators, and politicians: STOP PUSHING YOUR KIDS!
    8: I inherited this problem.
    9: Why don't you listen to us educators? The problems are too complicated for your feeble minds.
    10: What we really need is a solution so complicated that no one will understand how the **** anything works.
    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Wow that was certainly over the top and as poor a translation as I've ever seen. I guess I have learned you're not interested in actual understanding.
    Edu-speak to English Translation: I don't know what sarcasm is.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer View Post
    Edu-speak to English Translation: I don't know what sarcasm is.
    No, I understand sarcasm. But it presents a position. And your position seems over the top.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, I understand sarcasm. But it presents a position. And your position seems over the top.
    I'll forgive your turgidity if you'll forgive my facetiousness. Do we have a deal?

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer View Post
    I'll forgive your turgidity if you'll forgive my facetiousness. Do we have a deal?
    Fair enough.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    It's pretty clear that the teabaggers equating Obamacare to slavery is telling us they want to refight your civil war. Simply because they hate Obama because he's a black president. The jig's up now and all good Americans should call it like it is.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    It's pretty clear that the teabaggers equating Obamacare to slavery is telling us they want to refight your civil war. Simply because they hate Obama because he's a black president. The jig's up now and all good Americans should call it like it is.
    Are we not all tired of this lame excuse for a failure of a Presidency, and a huge waste of time in a fragile period?
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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