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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    He's a Libertarian. What did you expect? In his mind, he's being held in chains, whipped in the hot sun, told to work for 17 hours a day, sold like cattle and his family has been sold off to the highest bidder. That's how serious people who make such claims are. They really think ACA actually amounts to physical suffering as well as social and cultural destruction.
    I actually have a lot of libertarian views, mostly on the social and personal freedom side, but I am loathe to self-identify as one because if there's one thing many libertarians do these days, it's take hyperbole to absolutely ludicrous extremes. Laws are slavery, taxes are theft, and so on.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You dishonor my ancestors by pretending your complaints about a tax are comparable to what they went through.
    Sorry, but did I call it chattel slavery? I'm not dishonoring any chattel slaves if I'm calling it involuntary servitude.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I actually have a lot of libertarian views, mostly on the social and personal freedom side, but I am loathe to self-identify as one because if there's one thing many libertarians do these days, it's take hyperbole to absolutely ludicrous extremes. Laws are slavery, taxes are theft, and so on.
    A law can force people into service for others and thus cause slavery and any property taken without the permission of the owner is theft.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Sorry, but did I call it chattel slavery? I'm not dishonoring any chattel slaves if I'm calling it involuntary servitude.
    Ah, backtracking. Glad to hear you have some intellectual honesty left in you. So now it's a different form of slavery. Okay, which form? Chattel slavery is the traditional form of slavery. Which slavery are you being subjected to? Bonded Labor? Nope. Forced labor? Nope. Arranged marriages? Hardly. What labor are you being forced to perform and by whom?
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ah, backtracking. Glad to hear you have some intellectual honesty left in you. So now it's a different form of slavery. Okay, which form? Chattel slavery is the traditional form of slavery. Which slavery are you being subjected to? Bonded Labor? Nope. Forced labor? Nope. Arranged marriages? Hardly. What labor are you being forced to perform and by whom?
    I already covered that..

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Chattel slavery or otherwise known as traditional slavery is not the only type of slavery. Forcing people into service for others is involuntary servitude and a type of slavery. When a business owner has to provide a service to their employee against their will that is involuntary servitude and thus slavery. Much like it's involuntary servitude to force insurance companies to provide coverage to people with pre-existing conditions. Involuntary servitude is not dependent on compensation nor does it call for the individual to be whipped, raped or threatened with death.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I already covered that..
    I'm guessing you consider The CRA of 64' to be slavery too. What an intellectually dishonest premise you present by insulting actual slaves.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm guessing you consider The CRA of 64' to be slavery too. What an intellectually dishonest premise you present by insulting actual slaves.
    Public accommodations laws are involuntary servitude.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Public accommodations laws are involuntary servitude.
    Ah, you mean slavery. Any more dishonest nonsense?
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ah, you mean slavery. Any more dishonest nonsense?
    Are businesses being forced to serve others by public accommodations laws? Yes.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Are businesses being forced to serve others by public accommodations laws? Yes.
    Slaves don't usually get paid. Or at least it is not required to pay them for services rendered.

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