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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Car insurance is mandated by law. Smoke detectors are mandated by law. Electrical outlets with a ground line are mandated by law. Pilot certification and aircraft registration are required by law.
    Do you have to have car insurance if you don't own a car? No.
    Do you have to have a smoke detector if you own the home? No. You can disconnect or disable without penalty. It is required to be active only during a sell or if in a commercial residence (i.e. rental property, hotel, apartment, ect).
    Do you have to your electrical outlets grounded? No. Even if you sell the home, it does not have to be brought up to code...AND...if you do the electrical work yourself, there is no requirement to meet code.
    How many pilots are there? Because I'm going to bet that there are more people without certification than with. So it is not required as a condition of living.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    I think he might know a thing or two about health care at the very least...far more than the O' so stupid One...
    Well, if the good Dr. had limited his discussion on health related issues, i.e., medicine and medical practices, I'd take what he had to say at face value. But since all he's done is attempt to through himself into the political arena behind his medical credentials while making the same wild rhetorical arguments the talking heads have tried to make, he really doesn't come across as being very credible to me. As such, he's just another mouthpiece for the established conservative anti-Obama ideologues.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    January 1st with pre-existing conditions is D-Day for this War..
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    But his motive is greed. He knows very well that he wont be able to exploit people like he has been doing under the current system for very long. People are realizing that doctors, hospitals and insurance companies are the main cost problem and many are exploiting people in need for massive profits.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    I guess a Republican did this?

    Obamacare, another Democratic bomb!
    What does party affiliation have to do with whether or not slavery/bombs/health insurance are bad? Are you under the impression that these things would become ok or not ok if the party switched?

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    Stop being a racist

    You just don't like Dr. Carson because he's black. His credentials are beyond question.

    Obamacare is way worse than slavery actually. Obama and his army of Lois Lerners are going to know everything about you. It's going to be the largest database in History. It's no secret that the Collectivist Social Engineers look at Socialized HC as the key to total control. You snake oil salesmen always sell it as a utopia, but history proves it's always slavery because it's all based on a Hegelian lie. That all of this constant social conflict only has one solution (the solution that you fascists endlessly push) which is Government is and always will be the only solution.

    Well now we see the results. A 650M website that doesn't load. Premiums skyrocketing. Debt more and more spinning out of control. Mandates for the peasants while the elite get waivers. Under Obama we're not evolving, we're regressing into a 3rd world (*&^hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Do you have to have car insurance if you don't own a car? No.
    Do you have to have a smoke detector if you own the home? No. You can disconnect or disable without penalty. It is required to be active only during a sell or if in a commercial residence (i.e. rental property, hotel, apartment, ect).
    Do you have to your electrical outlets grounded? No. Even if you sell the home, it does not have to be brought up to code...AND...if you do the electrical work yourself, there is no requirement to meet code.
    How many pilots are there? Because I'm going to bet that there are more people without certification than with. So it is not required as a condition of living.
    And this terrifying "condition of living" penalty for not having insurance is a $695 penalty assessed on your tax return. But only under certain circumstances.
    You don't have to hold a job that makes enough money to be subject to the penalty. It's not a condition of living. It's a condition of income.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    You can attribute poll taxes and segregation to democrats as well.

    Thanks for making the case against Obamacare Wiseone.

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    None of these things have anything to do with Obamacare, the OP specifically stated it was the worst thing since slavery and I simply showed that there are lots of other things worse than Obamacare since slavery. You want to change the topic so that anything that happened while a Dem was in office doesn't count, which isn't what the OP said.

    But if you insist do you really, REALLY, think that not a single Republican has done anything worse than Obamacare since the end of slavery. I already posted the Iraq War, what about Iran-Contra, what about Reagan passing intelligence off to Iraq so it could use its chemical weapons more accurately on Iran, what about Watergate, what about Nixon's expanded bombing campaign of Laos and Cambodia, what about Eisenhower sending the first Soldiers to Vietnam and his "Domino theory"

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Car insurance is mandated by law. Smoke detectors are mandated by law. Electrical outlets with a ground line are mandated by law. Pilot certification and aircraft registration are required by law.
    Which one of those are a forced purchase apart from another chosen activity? Obama care allows a penalty of law in response to NO ACT whatsoever.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    Which one of those are a forced purchase apart from another chosen activity? Obama care allows a penalty of law in response to NO ACT whatsoever.
    There is an act: working a job that provides sufficient income.

    The Obamacare tax penalty isn't different from an income tax in any manner of substance.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    [QUOTE=ksu_aviator;1062416367]Do you have to have car insurance if you don't own a car? No.

    Except if you do have a car and get caught driving without auto insurance you DO pay a steep fine.

    Do you have to have a smoke detector if you own the home? No. You can disconnect or disable without penalty. It is required to be active only during a sell or if in a commercial residence (i.e. rental property, hotel, apartment, ect).
    Except if your house catches fire and it is determined that the smoke detector was purposely disabled, the insurance company won't pay the claim and you can be held liable for destruction of property (at the least) or reckless endangerment (at the most).

    Do you have to your electrical outlets grounded? No. Even if you sell the home, it does not have to be brought up to code...AND...if you do the electrical work yourself, there is no requirement to meet code.
    You're right, but just as the burden of not having insurance is passed on to those who do have insurance, such is the case when the person who jury-rigged his electrical outlets passes on that risk and financial burden onto the new homeowner. (Or course, the counter-argument would be "have a home inspection performed" except home inspections DON'T look at wall sockets; they only gauge the condition and functionality of the electrical circuit breaker box.)

    How many pilots are there? Because I'm going to bet that there are more people without certification than with. So it is not required as a condition of living.
    Wild analogy here since only a handful of people go on to become commercial (or private) aircraft pilots. You're really grasping at straws on this one.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    January 1st with pre-existing conditions is D-Day for this War..
    Actually I would say that Stalingrad was the release of the cost database by the Obama administration. Granted it is not easily searchable, but the information is there and people can clearly see that their healthcare system is built on exploitation to the extreme. That a hospital visit for a certain procedure can vary by 100+% with in the same city.. is mind boggling.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Do you have to your electrical outlets grounded? No. Even if you sell the home, it does not have to be brought up to code...AND...if you do the electrical work yourself, there is no requirement to meet code.
    How very corrupt capitalistic!!
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