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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    and that is for life threating emergency treatment
    read the dam act
    EXACTLY!!!!! And who's responsibility is it to pay for that treatment?
    The amount of uncompensated care delivered by nonfederal community hospitals grew from $6.1 billion in 1983 to $40.7 billion in 2004, according to a 2004 report from the Kaiser Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured,
    If you have insurance, YOU are the one footing that bill to the tune of about $1000 per year.

    That's the price we pay to guarantee that we will be treated if we happen to need emergency care and don't have documentation. It's the price we're paying for the moochers without insurance. The people who expect care and don't want to pay the bills.

    You know.. what we really need is some sort of law that mandates that these moochers pay their fair share. And if they choose not to, then these free-loaders should pay a fine to cover some of the cost that they're passing on to us. I think something around $700 would be fair, and we'll make them pay it when they pay their taxes.

    Best conservative idea ever.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    Actually you do. If you look at the plans online, they are the same healthcare providers that we commonly use.

    Blue Cross
    Aetna
    Humana
    etc...
    and can I decide on a plan that doesn't force me to pay for the poor lifestyle decision made by others?

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    EXACTLY!!!!! And who's responsibility is it to pay for that treatment?

    If you have insurance, YOU are the one footing that bill to the tune of about $1000 per year.

    That's the price we pay to guarantee that we will be treated if we happen to need emergency care and don't have documentation. It's the price we're paying for the moochers without insurance. The people who expect care and don't want to pay the bills.

    You know.. what we really need is some sort of law that mandates that theses moochers pay their fair share. And if they choose not to, then these free-loaders should pay a fine to cover some of the cost that they're passing on to us. I think something around $700 would be fair, and we'll make them pay it when they pay their taxes.

    Best conservative idea ever.
    get out of here with your Kaiser foundation socialist medicine bull crap. Kaiser foundation is and has always been an advocate of socialized medicine so take that bias nonsense some where else

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Really? So if Mitt Romney had a daughter that got pregnant at 15 and a girl with a single parent working a 20k a year job got pregnant...same choices yet drastically different impacts on their future.
    A guy standing on the edge of a cliff and a guy standing on his front porch both take one step forward.... is it really the same choice?

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    and can I decide on a plan that doesn't force me to pay for the poor lifestyle decision made by others?
    You do it now with corporations.

    If you have insurance through your company, your rates are base on the age of each employee, diseases, obesity, medical past, etc.


    I use to work for a health insurance underwriter for Humana. we use to rate groups base on the situation above. if you are a small to medium size company and your employees take BP meds or cholesterol meds then that will increase your company's rates. But the large companies can hide those employees in the population.


    This is what the US is doing. It is acting like a large employers and that is why they are offering lower rates.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    and can I decide on a plan that doesn't force me to pay for the poor lifestyle decision made by others?
    I find this kind of comment odd. Do you have an insurance plan already?

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    get out of here with your Kaiser foundation socialist medicine bull crap. Kaiser foundation is and has always been an advocate of socialized medicine so take that bias nonsense some where else
    Are you seriously proposing that hospitals have a negligible unpaid liabilities?

    Fact: You have been paying for the uninsured since 1986. The individual mandate is all about making them pay at least a little now. It's a conservative solution to a real problem.

    Or maybe you think it's a common occurrence for conservatives to occasionally champion socialist ideas every few years by mistake.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    You do it now with corporations.

    If you have insurance through your company, your rates are base on the age of each employee, diseases, obesity, medical past, etc.


    I use to work for a health insurance underwriter for Humana. we use to rate groups base on the situation above. if you are a small to medium size company and your employees take BP meds or cholesterol meds then that will increase your company's rates. But the large companies can hide those employees in the population.


    This is what the US is doing. It is acting like a large employers and that is why they are offering lower rates.
    and I had the choice not to accept employer provided insurance and shop around

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Loss of freedom is the "worse thing" since slavery. Those people you mentioned in the wars (post575) were not fighting so we could have our freedom taken away. People living during the depression still had their freedom. Now Obama has taken it away. It needs changed. And with respect to Dr Carson, his expertise in the political arena is where it needs to be. Restoring freedom.
    ... I count four.... four failed uses of the word freedom for dramatic effect.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    and I had the choice not to accept employer provided insurance and shop around
    You can still shop around

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