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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Really? So if Mitt Romney had a daughter that got pregnant at 15.....

    Wait, wait, wait...Stop right there. I want everyone to read this and just think for a second....
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Really? So if Mitt Romney had a daughter that got pregnant at 15 and a girl with a single parent working a 20k a year job got pregnant...same choices yet drastically different impacts on their future.
    if a cow **** butter you would not have to churn it, can't you do better than that?

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Don't you even try the WWJD card with me...Although Jesus would have advocated that we take care of those with the least among us, he wouldn't have said at the tip of a Roman spear...So that dog don't hunt. Sorry.
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    Are we just talking about healthcare or all entitlements?

    On the subject of things like welfare and housing, we can have some common ground. But you are dead wrong if believe that Christ is against healthcare access for everyone. And how is making healthcare affordable to people teaching them how to be lazy????

    Like I said Getting treatment to live shouldn't be called a entitlement.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    J-mac

    Are we just talking about healthcare or all entitlements?

    On the subject of things like welfare and housing, we can have some common ground. But you are dead wrong if believe that Christ is against healthcare access for everyone. And how is making healthcare affordable to people teaching them how to be lazy????

    Like I said Getting treatment to live shouldn't be called a entitlement.
    We are not responsible for you, you are.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    if a cow **** butter you would not have to churn it, can't you do better than that?
    Rocketman, I don't agree with you but I have to steal this quote from you.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    J-mac

    Are we just talking about healthcare or all entitlements?

    On the subject of things like welfare and housing, we can have some common ground. But you are dead wrong if believe that Christ is against healthcare access for everyone. And how is making healthcare affordable to people teaching them how to be lazy????

    Like I said Getting treatment to live shouldn't be called a entitlement.
    Again, since you went there, and I didn't, all you have to do is show specifically where Christ would have advocated that we take care of each other at the force of Pilot.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    We are not responsible for you, you are.
    I disagree

    I think we have a moral responsibility to help those in need.

    Don't get me wrong, we can trim a lot of social nets of fat. Same with corporate entitlements.

    But healthcare is something that I am not budging on.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    For any black man who grew up in the 50s to say that Obamacare is worse than the Jim Crow laws has no respect for the sacrifices of civil rights movement PERIOD!!!!!

    And by the way, because his family was so poor, he grew up on medical assistance. Funny that he bashes a government program that was his family only option back then for medical coverage.
    That's the difficult part. He HAS to know better. There's no way you could grow up living the life he lived and believe that Obamacare was the worst thing since slavery. I mean, he personally experienced a hell of a lot worse than a $700 annual fine for not having insurance.

    I think the easiest way to understand Carson is as a psychopath. That doesn't make him crazy or bad, it just means that he's making decisions without considering the effect on others. That's a trait that that's much more attractive in a surgeon than a leader. Look at his childhood, there's a number of instances where he exhibited abnormal reactions to small copfrontations.
    Despite his academic successes, Ben Carson still had a raging temper that translated into violent behavior as a child. One time he tried to hit is mother with a hammer because she disagreed with his choice of clothes. Another time, he inflicted a major head injury on a classmate in a dispute over a locker. In a final incident, Ben nearly stabbed to death a friend after arguing over a choice of radio stations.
    Those aren't normal reactions.

    In short, I seriously doubt that Carson believes a word of what he's saying. He's playing the part of the "Tea Party" saviour because they're the most gullible. The Tea Party will go nuts for anyone willing to to say a few ridiculous things about the president. There's a long list of people who quickly risen to national prominence that way: Trump, Palin, Bauchman, Cruz, Limbaugh, etc.. Carson's just following their example.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    I disagree

    I think we have a moral responsibility to help those in need.

    Don't get me wrong, we can trim a lot of social nets of fat. Same with corporate entitlements.

    But healthcare is something that I am not budging on.
    Start with that, next thing you know the people running the healthcare will tell you bacon and cheeseburgers are off limits, no more eggs, gone is that summer ice cream cone. Much of that is already happening with this new healthcare rollout.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Again, since you went there, and I didn't, all you have to do is show specifically where Christ would have advocated that we take care of each other at the force of Pilot.

    IF the Romans wanted to make sure that everyone had access to healthcare, I highly doubt that Jesus would have stood before Pilot and told him that this act is not the will of God.

    I'm not saying that everything should go through the government, but defense and healthcare should be on their todo list.

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