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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    No matter what one thinks of the ACA, and it has shortcomings and potential risks (some of which won't be known until concrete empirical data becomes available), the suggestion that it is the "worst thing" to impact the nation since slavery is historically illiterate. Dr. Carson's rhetoric only demonstrates anew the reality that superior performance in one field does not necessarily equate to superior performance in another field. He is a talented and successful neurosurgeon. One can't say the same with respect to his role in the political arena.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Nice try, but being a brain surgeon isn't a free ticket to expertise in every other department. Listening to his hyperbole on healthcare with the tag line "He's a brain surgeon!" sounds a little too similar to those anti-flu vitamin C tablets sold in supermarkets that have the words "invented by a school teacher!" written on the box. It sounds kind of credible for a second until you realize it means nothing.
    By your own system of judgement, by what merit or expertise are you able to legitimately call bull**** on Dr. Carson's statements on Obamacare and slavery? Unless you are an expert in both, I don't see how your remarks meet your own evaluation standards.

    Well, unless you are an expert in bull****. In that case, I'd concede the topic.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    No matter what one thinks of the ACA, and it has shortcomings and potential risks (some of which won't be known until concrete empirical data becomes available), the suggestion that it is the "worst thing" to impact the nation since slavery is historically illiterate. Dr. Carson's rhetoric only demonstrates anew the reality that superior performance in one field does not necessarily equate to superior performance in another field. He is a talented and successful neurosurgeon. One can't say the same with respect to his role in the political arena.
    Please elaborate.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    He's definitely a smart guy. The right wing rage machine is big money. A couple of "Liberals are the devil and destroy the world" books and he'll make more than he ever made as a neurosurgeon. Not to mention maybe a Fox news show or a radio station.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer View Post
    Please elaborate.
    His assessment ignores a number of things that have been far worse: WWI, WWII, the Great Depression, etc. All of those events either led to substantial loss of American lives and/or significant sacrifice/hardship. The ACA does not begin to compare in terms of the economic and social impact of those events. To ignore such consequential historical events and their impact on the U.S. amounts to historical illiteracy, as one is not discussing minor footnotes or ambiguous nuance over which there is a lot of disagreement.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer View Post
    By your own system of judgement, by what merit or expertise are you able to legitimately call bull**** on Dr. Carson's statements on Obamacare and slavery? Unless you are an expert in both, I don't see how your remarks meet your own evaluation standards.

    Well, unless you are an expert in bull****. In that case, I'd concede the topic.
    Are you suggesting that Dr. Carson is an expert in slavery?

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    OH ok, it was me calling blacks crazy for their political views, righhhht.
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    Oh, I see. "They" are picked... they couldn't possibly be advocates of their own views and have earned a spot in the limelight. Racist.
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    OH ok, it was me calling blacks crazy for their political views, righhhht.
    The part in bold is what makes it not racism.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    No matter what one thinks of the ACA, and it has shortcomings and potential risks (some of which won't be known until concrete empirical data becomes available), the suggestion that it is the "worst thing" to impact the nation since slavery is historically illiterate. Dr. Carson's rhetoric only demonstrates anew the reality that superior performance in one field does not necessarily equate to superior performance in another field. He is a talented and successful neurosurgeon. One can't say the same with respect to his role in the political arena.

    I'll take a brain surgeon over a community organizer any day of the week. Wouldn't you? One solves problems, the other creates them.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I'll take a brain surgeon over a community organizer any day of the week. Wouldn't you? One solves problems, the other creates them.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I'll take a brain surgeon over a community organizer any day of the week. Wouldn't you? One solves problems, the other creates them.

    Tim-
    I'll take the community organizer who didn't say minor taxes for not getting health insurance is worse than the holocaust.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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