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Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

Oh, more on the historically illiterate Dr. Carson: there is no source for his claim that “Vladimir Lenin, one of the fathers of socialism and communism, said that socialized medicine is the keystone to the establishment of a socialist state."

Dr. Carson may know a thing or two about brain surgery, but as history goes he is a buffoon.
 
Just educating the good doctor as well as anyone else who weren't aware that WWI and WWII have happened since slavery.

Again. “Obamacare is really, I think, the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery".

Can you see the part where he says "in this nation"??? World Wars I and II did not happen "in this nation".

Maybe you can ask someone close by to explain it to you.
 
What Carson said is disgusting, and especially coming from a black man ... but from what I've seen, the man so desperately wants conservative white folks to love him that he's willing to say and do anything ... that's too bad ... there's nothing wrong with him criticizing ACA or the president, but to liken ACA to slavery? ... Maybe he needs to go see 12 Years a Slave ...

What's so "disgusting" about it? It's rhetoric.
 
Again. “Obamacare is really, I think, the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery".

Can you see the part where he says "in this nation"??? World Wars I and II did not happen "in this nation".

Maybe you can ask someone close by to explain it to you.

So half a million American soldiers' deaths are irrelevant to you because they happened somewhere else. That's quite the moral position you've staked out there. I'm more than happy to let you hang your coat on that one.
 
Just educating the good doctor as well as anyone else who weren't aware that WWI and WWII have happened since slavery.

Not to mention the Great Depression. Also a law can be reversed or replaced, deaths are not reversible. PPACA is indeed a mess and has not yet been fully implemented.
 
What's so "disgusting" about it? It's rhetoric.

you clearly do not have an appreciation for the power of words ... trust me J, he expects something in return for those words ... you don't sell your soul and self-respect for nothing ... BTW, asked if he believed ACA was worse than Jim Crow, Carson said, "Yes, absolutely." Do you agree?
 
So half a million American soldiers' deaths are irrelevant to you because they happened somewhere else. That's quite the moral position you've staked out there. I'm more than happy to let you hang your coat on that one.

They are very relevant to me but they did not happen "IN THIS NATION". Do you see the difference?

Accuse him of hyperbole, perhaps, but you don't make yourself look any better by being incapable of understanding his point.
 
Not to mention the Great Depression. Also a law can be reversed or replaced, deaths are not reversible. PPACA is indeed a mess and has not yet been fully implemented.

the internment of Japanese Americans, Jim Crow, lynchings, .... but the "good" doctor said ACA was worse than Jim Crow ... maybe he believes ACA will include lynchings by mobs ...

BTW, when fully implemented, it may be better ... we're going to have to wait and see ...
 
WASHINGTON (CBSDC) — Dr. Ben Carson slammed President Barack Obama’s signature health care during his speech at the Value Voter’s Summit Friday.

“Obamacare is really, I think, the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery,” Carson declared. “It is slavery in a way because it is making all of us subservient to the government.”

Carson said the implementation of the Affordable Care Act was never about health care, only control.

“That’s why when this administration took office it didn’t matter that the country was going off the cliff economically. All forces were directed toward getting this legislation passed,” Carson said.

Carson also made a comparison between Obama’s health care law to former Soviet leader Vladimir Lenin.

“Vladimir Lenin, one of the fathers of socialism and communism, said that socialized medicine is the keystone to the establishment of a socialist state,” Carson stated.
The new health care law makes people buy health care insurance from private insurers...that's capitalism. Before the law passed, people could get free treatment from hospital ERs .... that's socialism.
 
They are very relevant to me but they did not happen "IN THIS NATION". Do you see the difference?

Accuse him of hyperbole, perhaps, but you don't make yourself look any better by being incapable of understanding his point.

Oh, I'm sure veterans on this board will appreciate the hell out of this distinction. Well done, Grant. Well done. Throwing the people who fought and died for this country under the bus is perfectly acceptable I guess so long as it's done to make a cheap political point.
 
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The new health care law makes people buy health care insurance from private insurers...that's capitalism. Before the law passed, people could get free treatment from hospital ERs .... that's socialism.

Well it's good to hear that Barrack Obama still supports the free enterprise system. He's certainly living large.
 
Oh, I'm sure veterans on this board will appreciate the hell out of this distinction. Well done, Grant. Well done. Dismissing the people who fought and died for this country is perfectly acceptable so long as it's done to make a cheap political point.

Huh? Where did I dismiss anyone and how is this thread about world wars?? You seem to be losing it.
 
you clearly do not have an appreciation for the power of words ... trust me J, he expects something in return for those words ... you don't sell your soul and self-respect for nothing ... BTW, asked if he believed ACA was worse than Jim Crow, Carson said, "Yes, absolutely." Do you agree?

Dr. Carson has sold his "soul and self respect"? The Left is certainly getting nervous about this guy!

Or are they just becoming more openly racist than usual?
 
Dr. Carson has sold his "soul and self respect"? The Left is certainly getting nervous about this guy!

Or are they just becoming more openly racist than usual?

Did you catch that he used a made-up quote in that speech?

Utter buffoon.

Oh, and the only people to bring up race in this thread are those supporting Dr. Carson's buffoonery.
 
Are you still on about WWI?

Nope, I don't need to dwell on WWI and WWII to make my point. I'm referring to the quote "by Lenin."
 
Dr. Carson has sold his "soul and self respect"? The Left is certainly getting nervous about this guy!

Or are they just becoming more openly racist than usual?

Or the guy is just being an idiot on a few issues.

I serious doubt anyone being rational would think that providing/requiring health insurance is worse then Segregation for one. In other words the guy is a crack pot
 
Dr. Carson has sold his "soul and self respect"? The Left is certainly getting nervous about this guy!

Or are they just becoming more openly racist than usual?

yeah, add him to list of people who make the left nervous ... Palin, Paul, Cruz, Rubio, Romney, McCain, Akins, Bachmann, Santorum, Ryan, McConnell, Boehner, Perry, ... add him to the list Grant ... Could Carson have said ACA was worse than something other than slavery? Maybe the worst thing since Social Security? Medicare perhaps? or maybe the worst thing since Citizens United? Since Roe v. Wade? Why slavery Grant? Of all things, why slavery? He has to know what slavery was Grant ... and he has to know what Jim Crow, the near extermination of Indians, and the internment of the Japanese during WWII were ... he needs to apologize and then go back into the hole he crawled out of ...
 
yeah, add him to list of people who make the left nervous ... Palin, Paul, Cruz, Rubio, Romney, McCain, Akins, Bachmann, Santorum, Ryan, McConnell, Boehner, Perry, ...

Carson's speech made me think of this skit, but your reference to Palin sealed the deal. I had to post this.

 
Carson's speech made me think of this skit, but your reference to Palin sealed the deal. I had to post this.



thank you so much ... I needed some comic relief after reading some of the stuff some of these posters are posting on this thread ... they depress the hell out of me sometimes ... have a happy thanksgiving ...
 
yeah, add him to list of people who make the left nervous ... Palin, Paul, Cruz, Rubio, Romney, McCain, Akins, Bachmann, Santorum, Ryan, McConnell, Boehner, Perry, ... add him to the list Grant ... Could Carson have said ACA was worse than something other than slavery? Maybe the worst thing since Social Security? Medicare perhaps? or maybe the worst thing since Citizens United? Since Roe v. Wade? Why slavery Grant? Of all things, why slavery? He has to know what slavery was Grant ... and he has to know what Jim Crow, the near extermination of Indians, and the internment of the Japanese during WWII were ... he needs to apologize and then go back into the hole he crawled out of ...

Hmm. Interesting list of people you have there.

  • Palin is not making the left nervous, she's been thoroughly screwed and skewered by the Biased Lame Stream Media as most conservative women are.
  • Paul Ryan, yes, is making the left nervous, as he's well spoken, and has integrity. The left just hates integrity, it leaves them no change of manipulating a person into doing what they want.
  • Cruze, yes he's making the left nervous much for the same reasons that they are nervous about Ryan.
  • Rubio, yes, he's got the appeal to the Latin American segment of the electorate, one that the liberal /progressive / Democrats feel they 'own' all to themselves for some reason
  • McCain, no, they are not worried about McCain, as he's got to execute a rear guard action to protect his vulnerable moderate position with his own more conservative base
  • Akins, no, they are not worried about Aktins. That was just a straw candidate arrange and paid for by McCaskill to use as a foil to make herself look better
  • Bachman, no, they are not worried about her, again she's been thoroughly screwed and skewered by the Biased Lame Stream Media as most conservative women are
  • Santorum, no, they are not worried about Santorum, he's no longer a real factor anymore. When's the last time you heard about him in the news?
  • Ryan - dupe, skipped
  • McConnell, no, they are not worried about McConnell, as he's a controllable, manageable old guard Republican with which they've been dealing with for years
  • Boehner, they are not worried about Boehner, as he's a controllable, manageable old guard Republican with which they've been dealing with for years
So I see you batting around 50% on your list there. That's not all that good, really.
 
Hmm. Interesting list of people you have there.

  • Palin is not making the left nervous, she's been thoroughly screwed and skewered by the Biased Lame Stream Media as most conservative women are.
  • Paul Ryan, yes, is making the left nervous, as he's well spoken, and has integrity. The left just hates integrity, it leaves them no change of manipulating a person into doing what they want.
  • Cruze, yes he's making the left nervous much for the same reasons that they are nervous about Ryan.
  • Rubio, yes, he's got the appeal to the Latin American segment of the electorate, one that the liberal /progressive / Democrats feel they 'own' all to themselves for some reason
  • McCain, no, they are not worried about McCain, as he's got to execute a rear guard action to protect his vulnerable moderate position with his own more conservative base
  • Akins, no, they are not worried about Aktins. That was just a straw candidate arrange and paid for by McCaskill to use as a foil to make herself look better
  • Bachman, no, they are not worried about her, again she's been thoroughly screwed and skewered by the Biased Lame Stream Media as most conservative women are
  • Santorum, no, they are not worried about Santorum, he's no longer a real factor anymore. When's the last time you heard about him in the news?
  • Ryan - dupe, skipped
  • McConnell, no, they are not worried about McConnell, as he's a controllable, manageable old guard Republican with which they've been dealing with for years
  • Boehner, they are not worried about Boehner, as he's a controllable, manageable old guard Republican with which they've been dealing with for years
So I see you batting around 50% on your list there. That's not all that good, really.

if you're using a baseball analogy, it would be that I'm hitting .500 and that's pretty good ... but the only reason that I am hitting .500 is that you have the scorebook in your hands ... give it to a professional and you'll see I'm hitting a 1.000 ...

but thanks for your work ... a couple of them were pretty funny ...
 
  • Bachman, no, they are not worried about her, again she's been thoroughly screwed and skewered by the Biased Lame Stream Media as most conservative women are

Just picking the most fun one at random:

"I don't know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We've had an earthquake; we've had a hurricane. He said, 'Are you going to start listening to me here?' Listen to the American people because the American people are roaring right now. They know government is on a morbid obesity diet and we've got to rein in the spending." –Rep. Michele Bachmann, suggesting at a presidential campaign event in Florida that the 2011 East Coast earthquake and hurricane was a message from God (Aug. 2011)

:lol:
 
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Just picking the most fun one at random:

"I don't know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We've had an earthquake; we've had a hurricane. He said, 'Are you going to start listening to me here?' Listen to the American people because the American people are roaring right now. They know government is on a morbid obesity diet and we've got to rein in the spending." –Rep. Michele Bachmann, suggesting at a presidential campaign event in Florida that the 2011 East Coast earthquake and hurricane was a message from God (Aug. 2011)

:lol:

I have to admit that is kinda funny. Not really a Bachmann fan. She really never could turn a phrase nicely, as you so aptly displayed.

However, I still stand by my assertion that the Biased Liberal Media screws over conservative women in a most unfairly way, while they do not do the same to liberal women, think Pelosi and all her bad phrasing and out right lying nearly being ignored.
 
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