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Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

Boo Radley said:
I disagree that it wasn't large enough. Truly, where the most expensive in the world, with access issues, which is evidence that it was in fact large enough.
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"access issues" is an interesting catch phrase that progressive liberals often use, but when asked to define that in terms of what they are talking about, usually falls flat. So, maybe you can define "access" for us?
 
j-mac said:
"access issues" is an interesting catch phrase that progressive liberals often use, but when asked to define that in terms of what they are talking about, usually falls flat. So, maybe you can define "access" for us?
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No, that's not true. I personally have posted many articles for you of the years of people not having access. Most on your side rely on the use of the ER, which is even more problematic when you think about it. But we've even had the same type of healthcare tent set ups you see in third world countries done here to help those who have gone without care. That was posted for you some years ago. Working poor go without the most. if you're rich enough or poor enough, you do ok to well. But the working poor suffer the most. I do tire of repeating the same posting of information, but I've notice memories are often oddly short term on these forums. So, if you need any of it again, just say so.
 
Boo Radley said:
No, that's not true. I personally have posted many articles for you of the years of people not having access. Most on your side rely on the use of the ER, which is even more problematic when you think about it. But we've even had the same type of healthcare tent set ups you see in third world countries done here to help those who have gone without care. That was posted for you some years ago. Working poor go without the most. if you're rich enough or poor enough, you do ok to well. But the working poor suffer the most. I do tire of repeating the same posting of information, but I've notice memories are often oddly short term on these forums. So, if you need any of it again, just say so.
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All I need is what you think 'access' means....Thanks.
 
j-mac said:
All I need is what you think 'access' means....Thanks.
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Didn't think that was that complicated of a word. Able to receive need care, not just emergent, but preventive as well. If I'm ill, having access to appropriate care. Not cosmetic. Appropriate needed care. Do you need a list of appropriate care, or do you have something you might actually question?
 
Boo Radley said:
Didn't think that was that complicated of a word. Able to receive need care, not just emergent, but preventive as well. If I'm ill, having access to appropriate care. Not cosmetic. Appropriate needed care. Do you need a list of appropriate care, or do you have something you might actually question?
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And what doctors office turns them away? None that I know of...If you don't have insurance, you just pay the office visit fee, (probably discounted for cash) and viola! Access granted.
 
Boo Radley said:
I disagree that it wasn't large enough. Truly, where the most expensive in the world, with access issues, which is evidence that it was in fact large enough.
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Your response doesn't correlate. Looks like you thought you were responding to some other post.
 
Kobie said:
No, there wasn't. Just meaningless blather.
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You asked "How is he your hero?" The answer is: He's not your hero. He's the politician who made the statement that successfully refuted your claim. This may be "meaningless" blather to you, but to us it means you're a liar, or just not very smart.
 
Boo Radley said:
No, that's not true. I personally have posted many articles for you of the years of people not having access. Most on your side rely on the use of the ER, which is even more problematic when you think about it. But we've even had the same type of healthcare tent set ups you see in third world countries done here to help those who have gone without care. That was posted for you some years ago. Working poor go without the most. if you're rich enough or poor enough, you do ok to well. But the working poor suffer the most. I do tire of repeating the same posting of information, but I've notice memories are often oddly short term on these forums. So, if you need any of it again, just say so.
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Yeah, we need it again.
 
sKiTzo said:
You asked "How is he your hero?" The answer is: He's not your hero. He's the politician who made the statement that successfully refuted your claim. This may be "meaningless" blather to you, but to us it means you're a liar, or just not very smart.
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It would be nice of you told me what the hell you were talking about.
 
sKiTzo said:
Claiming that claiming that nobody read the bill is a false claim, is a false claim.
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Claiming that claiming that claiming that nobody read the bill is a false claim, is a false claim is a false claim.
 
Jango said:
P.S. - Carson believes the Earth is five or six thousand years old.
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What's that have to do with anything? You don't have an argument, so you attack his religion? Do yourself a favor, and try to stick to the topic. :roll:
 
j-mac said:
What's that have to do with anything? You don't have an argument, so you attack his religion? Do yourself a favor, and try to stick to the topic. :roll:
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My argument is so clear a blind person can see it: the man believes that the Earth is a couple thousand years old, which to any human being with a functional brain knows is WAY off the mark, so when people claim such things, in the face of irrefutable science, you have to question their entire mindset, especially when they say, "Obamacare is the worst thing since slavery."
 
Jango said:
My argument is so clear a blind person can see it: the man believes that the Earth is a couple thousand years old, which to any human being with a functional brain knows is WAY off the mark, so when people claim such things, in the face of irrefutable science, you have to question their entire mindset, especially when they say, "Obamacare is the worst thing since slavery."
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So, people that have faith are without a "functional brain" eh?

I'm willing to put Dr. Carson's brain up against yours any day of the week.
 
j-mac said:
So, people that have faith are without a "functional brain" eh?
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There's a difference between "having faith" and "believing absolutely whackadoodle things that are easily disprovable." Like, say, Young Earth Creationism.

j-mac said:
I'm willing to put Dr. Carson's brain up against yours any day of the week.
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While I have no doubt Dr. Carson is a brilliant surgeon (he's extremely highly regarded, and he's on staff at Johns Hopkins), that doesn't make him any more qualified to comment on legislation -- even insurance legislation; being a physician does not mean they necessarily understand all the intricacies of insurance, that's why doctors have people to do that for them -- than anyone else.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson is a brilliant astrophysicist, but I wouldn't ask him to fix my car.
 
j-mac said:
So, people that have faith are without a "functional brain" eh?
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If that faith makes them believe bat**** crazy things like the Earth only being five to six thousand years old, then yes.
 
Kobie said:
There's a difference between "having faith" and "believing absolutely whackadoodle things that are easily disprovable." Like, say, Young Earth Creationism.



While I have no doubt Dr. Carson is a brilliant surgeon (he's extremely highly regarded, and he's on staff at Johns Hopkins), that doesn't make him any more qualified to comment on legislation -- even insurance legislation; being a physician does not mean they necessarily understand all the intricacies of insurance, that's why doctors have people to do that for them -- than anyone else.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson is a brilliant astrophysicist, but I wouldn't ask him to fix my car.
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That certainly wouldn't mean that Tyson doesn't know exactly what is wrong with your car nor would it mean he couldn't fix your car.
 
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