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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    We can't remove money, that's for sure, but we sure can have limits. Can anyone honestly (and I say honestly) that the most money produces the best candidate? Because that is the system we are promoting right now.
    The problem you guys are talking about deals with the mindset that you can use the government for personal benefits. The money is merely how you get your voice heard over other people that don't offer the government anything. Still, if what you desire gets the government power sometimes you don't need to have that much money to get whatever it is.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The problem you guys are talking about deals with the mindset that you can use the government for personal benefits. The money is merely how you get your voice heard over other people that don't offer the government anything. Still, if what you desire gets the government power sometimes you don't need to have that much money to get whatever it is.
    Really? I would wager money is what got Obama re-elected. I would also wager that money is what got MOST (if not all) the presidential candidates where they were at for election. I ask, can you HONESTLY say the most money produces the BEST candidate, because if you look at all the candidates they are there because of money.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You probably can't afford it or be truly held accountable.
    You can't define what truly holding someone accountable for an action means. If I damage the property of someone else the state should hold me accountable and if I don't they should leave me alone.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The problem you guys are talking about deals with the mindset that you can use the government for personal benefits. The money is merely how you get your voice heard over other people that don't offer the government anything. Still, if what you desire gets the government power sometimes you don't need to have that much money to get whatever it is.
    It works both ways. The politician can offer support for money. Not bribes, but encourage support by suggesting how they might vote.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Really? I would wager money is what got Obama re-elected. I would also wager that money is what got MOST (if not all) the presidential candidates where they were at for election. I ask, can you HONESTLY say the most money produces the BEST candidate, because if you look at all the candidates they are there because of money.
    As long as the parties are in charge of the choices of the candidates the people are presented with there is always going to be bad choices. The money might propel one bad candidate over the other, but they are both bad candidates. Before you even touch the money issue you must deal with the candidate issue itself. To do that you would most likely have to change the culture of the country.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You can't define what truly holding someone accountable for an action means. If I damage the property of someone else the state should hold me accountable and if I don't they should leave me alone.
    It does me good putting you in jail. If you can't pay, and my loss is great, I'm just out. Better to make sure you do things properly.

    Frankly, in a crowded, heavy populated world, some reasonable regulation allows for society to function well. As I've said, I haven't had any regulations effect me in any noticeable way. No hardship.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Right, your side wanted a FEDERAL constitutional amendment against flag burning and gay marriage. Your side constantly sides with FCC rulings on so called "morality" as well as abortion. Don't act like YOUR side doesn't use government for what THEY want.
    Interestingly, a retired liberal judge agrees with them on flag burning and claims that flag burning is not protected under the first amendment. WTF?

    What is interesting about the abortion issue is that even if the court ruled the unborn was a person the courts could turn around and say it's unconstitutional to ban abortion due to the thirteenth amendment. However, the courts have ruled that the thirteenth amendment only applies to slavery similar to that of blacks. Of course, that is entirely wrong.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    My point is that the Presidency is not an entry level position. Just like you don't take a kid who just finished college and make him CEO of a Fortune 500 company.
    I am guessing it would depend on the kid, actually. It was just like Kobe Bryant going straight to the NBA from high school...and he has done rather well for himself and his teams.

    But you see, however, that was my point with the line that Dr. Carson has time.

    At the same time I don't think Obama was prepared, he should have run for governor of Illinois and gotten some executive cred under his belt...being a lawyer to community organizer to a couple of legislative gigs he was ill suited, not ready for prime time...but he did it anyways... so between the two I would give the nod to Carson, he has the more American core belief system...Barrack has proven himself an empty suit and unsuited as presidential material.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Yeah, like prisons and insane asylums. Of course, something tells me those weren't the established "institutions" you were going for. (Shame, shame! )
    First off, tell me why you don't think so...and then how about telling me which institutions you think I was going for.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    I would give the nod to Carson, he has the more American core belief system...
    What is an American core belief system?

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