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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes. I, as a pilot, am forced to do all sorts of things in the name of passenger safety. Like recurrent training. And having a license. Why, that dastardly government even forces me to have my plane inspected regularly!
    Give it up. Then they don't force you to do any of it. Or do you do those things because you decided to?
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    1. That's going so far back that many of the people involved with making that decision are long dead.

    2. Surge was to end a war that Bush decided to put on the backburner. BHO's reasserted effort netted us OBL, BTW.

    3. Soldiers didn't die in Libya until the embassy was raided, and that was not related to us helping the French oust Ghadafi.
    Oh. I see. Just another case of not holding Dems to the same standard. I got it now.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes. I, as a pilot, am forced to do all sorts of things in the name of passenger safety. Like recurrent training. And having a license. Why, that dastardly government even forces me to have my plane inspected regularly!
    That is still silly. Those are requirements in order to be a pilot or continue flying a plane. Those laws have their own problems, but they are not involuntary servitude since they have are directly tied to the passenger getting service. Quality of service perhaps, but not service itself.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Oh. I see. Just another case of not holding Dems to the same standard. I got it now.
    What part of "false pretense" do you not understand.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes, I can prove that.

    Nothing in the section indicated that the government would have any control over decisions made as a result of that end-of-life consultation. There was no "panel" of any kind created by that section. The only people involved would be the patient and a doctor. Medicare would pay for that consultation.

    No "government bureaucrat" would be attending.
    Medicare would pay...what the IPAB says it will pay. And thats exactly how they will become a death panel by setting the rate of pay for doctors that force many out of business or long waits for treatment. It's healthcare rationing. And lets not forget, the Sec of Health and Human Services also holds life or death decision power based on whatever rules are chosen to be enforced, followed or made up. The current Sec has proven she has no problem sentencing a patient to death with that little girl a few months back. What she ended up saying was rules are rules so no treatment .
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    What part of "false pretense" do you not understand.
    The part you apply to the GOP but not the Dems.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is still silly. Those are requirements in order to be a pilot or continue flying a plane. Those laws have their own problems, but they are not involuntary servitude since they have are directly tied to the passenger getting service. Quality of service perhaps, but not service itself.
    No, it is service itself. I can literally go to jail for flying passengers around without a license. I can lose my license for flying passengers around without proper authorization and training.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Personally, I think anyone trying to compare a $695 penalty for not having health insurance to slavery and murder is a bit delusional. To the point where that person's interpretation of the constitution is suspect.
    Why is that? Heres what the Doctor said: "“Obamacare is really, I think, the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery,” Carson declared. “It is slavery in a way because it is making all of us subservient to the government.”

    He is exactly correct.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Really? Did he go to law school too?

    I'll take my chances with Roberts or Scalia.
    Roberts - corporate jackass that has no problem violating the fourth amendment(DNA case)
    Scalia - bigoted idiot that seems to ignore the fourteenth amendment on demand. Though Scalia did get the DNA case correct.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Being elected President of the USA is not a business, but if it was Barack Obama is pretty good at it.
    Yes his handlers and a teleprompter worked at getting him the Presidency but he still never would have made it without a poorly informed electorate.

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