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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Maybe it's because you don't ask they question you mean to ask.
    So, now you are going to tell me what I meant to ask eh? What an arrogant post.

    You do realize nothing's really happened yet, so your question has no context at all.
    Oh there are some things that have happened, and they are not good.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    roads, cops, firemen, army, navy, air force, sewers, water, sanitation, hospitals, ecetera ecetera.
    Roads - Constitutionally mandated

    Cops - Local issue

    Firemen - Local issue, in many places volunteers

    Armed services - Constitutionally mandated

    Water/Sewer - Local issue

    Sanitation - Local issue, and in many cases paid for privately.

    Hospitals - Local issue...

    You are making a common mistake of melding local, or community issues with Federal government mandates....It is dishonest.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Roads - Constitutionally mandated

    Cops - Local issue

    Firemen - Local issue, in many places volunteers

    Armed services - Constitutionally mandated

    Water/Sewer - Local issue

    Sanitation - Local issue, and in many cases paid for privately.

    Hospitals - Local issue...

    You are making a common mistake of melding local, or community issues with Federal government mandates....It is dishonest.
    Nope. I am listing what is government managed where I live.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Nope. I am listing what is government managed where I live.
    I don't care if it is where you live or not, you are inaccurate in what you say is Government run....What we are talking about in this thread is a Federal Government issue, and you are lumping in all government all the way down to the local level as the same thing...it is not. Therefore, untrue.

    Plus, do you think that all places do the things done where you live? That is rather limited thinking is it not?
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I don't care if it is where you live or not, you are inaccurate in what you say is Government run....What we are talking about in this thread is a Federal Government issue, and you are lumping in all government all the way down to the local level as the same thing...it is not. Therefore, untrue.

    Plus, do you think that all places do the things done where you live? That is rather limited thinking is it not?
    O rly!?

    Does it make that much of a difference if a part of inferstructure is managed by a federal or local government???

    The funding is still federal, and permits are as far as I know usualy also federal.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    O rly!?

    Does it make that much of a difference if a part of inferstructure is managed by a federal or local government???
    Yes...Tons of difference....First we have to consider what it is that the Federal Government is constitutionally mandated to do. Remember, we have a LIMITED government. They are bound by the constitution to only those things listed to their powers. The rest are relegated to the respective states.

    See, I think you have our system backwards. The federal government derives their power from the consent of the people, which means the states, not the other way around.

    The funding is still federal, and permits are as far as I know usualy also federal.
    You could probably show some of what you claim to be true in a convoluted way, but just because our Federal government has overstepped their constitutional bounds and bought power with taxpayer money, to turn the system on its head, is of no concern....That is NOT the way is was founded to be.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Nope. I am listing what is government managed where I live.
    You don't actually understand the Conservative position on separation of powers.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    You don't actually understand the Conservative position on separation of powers.
    Please explain.

    If you mind.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    O rly!?

    Does it make that much of a difference if a part of inferstructure is managed by a federal or local government???
    YES. It's amazing how some people can grasp the danger of monopolies in the private sector and be so absurdly blind to it in the public sector.

    The funding is still federal, and permits are as far as I know usualy also federal.
    False and False. Federal funding for roads go towards the interstate highway system, not surface roads that you use most of the time.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    YES. It's amazing how some people can grasp the danger of monopolies in the private sector and be so absurdly blind to it in the public sector.



    False and False. Federal funding for roads go towards the interstate highway system, not surface roads that you use most of the time.
    Ahhhhh!!! I appologise.


    I understand now, we call that "Föderalismus".

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