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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Exactly what do you think the government is doing to the spirits of the individuals mired within their current dependency on government programs? No, it's not physical abuse, just mental, but you seem to be okay with that...
    I wonder what is going to happen to everyone's spirits in the coming years when we are all mired in the latest government program...Obamacare. Hope for the best, but the beginning sure isn't auspicious!

    Greetings, AP. Your new picture is interesting...is it Mexico?

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Who do you feel is doing all this stabbing?
    People who spend their time complaining on a forum about less than 100B a year being spent on welfare in the U.S. There are much bigger fish to fry.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Who has all the money?
    Those that earned it and the politicians spending what we don't have in an unproductive manner...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I wonder what is going to happen to everyone's spirits in the coming years when we are all mired in the latest government program...Obamacare. Hope for the best, but the beginning sure isn't auspicious!

    Greetings, AP. Your new picture is interesting...is it Mexico?
    Yes, it is the view from my brother's condo. Good evening pg...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Our government, as it currently exists, has no interest in creating a more independent society. If it did, it wouldn't take much to do so. Take energy independence as an example. If we were to commit to the idea, it would create a vast amount of middle class jobs. Another example to combine with that would be the encouragement of manufacturing in the country by reducing the tax and regulatory burden on those businesses, but when catering to special interests (wealthy progs) is the goal, it makes it difficult to enact those types of reform...
    I would like a more independent society as well but busting the chops of the people receiving assistance isn't going to make that happen.

    I'm going to assume you don't believe in climate change. Fossil fuels hold a terrible future for the environment if we go that route of kicking up tar sands and shale. I believe its going to be very painful to deal with in the not so distant future so any benefit we get is going to be trumped many times over by the consequences. I'm sure you think its all baloney but too many respected scientists and organizations say otherwise.

    We could try to compete manufacturing but its a race to the bottom. I think we'd be better off focusing on investing in higher technology, something we can be dominant in. Not to mention that ship already sailed, the jobs aren't coming back.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Those that earned it and the politicians spending what we don't have in an unproductive manner...
    If a drug cartel is sitting on billions, is it because they "earned" it? Do you think its possible the financial sector among others stole a significant amount of money from the economy? Every month they're getting fined for some scheme in which they stole billions, but that's ok right?

    EDIT: I must run off now.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    For right now we can, its not our biggest problem, not by a long shot. People seem to forget the glorious position we are in. We hold the world's reserve currency, we owe everyone money that we can PRINT. Its a pretty sweet deal but the ultra rich don't want to lose their wealth through inflation tax so they spread the rumors that the world will end if we devalue our currency a little bit over the years.

    Our real problems are jobs, inefficient healthcare and a stalled economy. The debt is just numbers, people without a job are actually suffering every day.
    Well as long as you believe that money and the economy is 'just numbers', and enough people agree with you, then the future is clear.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    I would like a more independent society as well but busting the chops of the people receiving assistance isn't going to make that happen.

    I'm going to assume you don't believe in climate change. Fossil fuels hold a terrible future for the environment if we go that route of kicking up tar sands and shale. I believe its going to be very painful to deal with in the not so distant future so any benefit we get is going to be trumped many times over by the consequences. I'm sure you think its all baloney but too many respected scientists and organizations say otherwise.

    We could try to compete manufacturing but its a race to the bottom. I think we'd be better off focusing on investing in higher technology, something we can be dominant in. Not to mention that ship already sailed, the jobs aren't coming back.
    I'm not here busting the chops of those receiving assistance. I'm more concerned with those who would provide it over a prolonged period. Are you more concerned with possible AGW or the current economic condition of your fellow man? You can't have it both ways. Not everyone is suited to a HiTech world, and we'll just need to deal with that little factoid...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    If a drug cartel is sitting on billions, is it because they "earned" it? Do you think its possible the financial sector among others stole a significant amount of money from the economy? Every month they're getting fined for some scheme in which they stole billions, but that's ok right?
    Your comparison of government with drug cartels is actually an excellent analogy.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    If a drug cartel is sitting on billions, is it because they "earned" it? Do you think its possible the financial sector among others stole a significant amount of money from the economy? Every month they're getting fined for some scheme in which they stole billions, but that's ok right?
    How do you propose to tax an illegal activity? Listen, I didn't agree with the bailouts in '08-'09, but that's what we are dealing with in today's political environment. I would have preferred that those entities were actually broken up, but we have only enacted legislation since that time to further protect these TBTF entities...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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