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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

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    So you want to exploit your fellow man for your personal gain? That's fine but stop pretending you care about the country, you care about yourself and you will destroy your fellow American for it.
    I don't want to exploit anyone. I want everyone to be as productive as they can and earn as much reward from doing so as possible. It appears that you would rather oppress your fellow man by encouraging mediocrity, if not down right laziness...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

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    I don't want to exploit anyone. I want everyone to be as productive as they can and earn as much reward from doing so as possible. It appears that you would rather oppress your fellow man by encouraging mediocrity, if not down right laziness...
    Pffft, "encourage mediocrity", you might think walking around with a whip beating people half to death makes them work harder, but it doesn't. This isn't the middle ages, we don't need such barbaric principles guiding us. Get into the sciences and talk to some psychologists, psychiatrists about what motivates people to be more efficient. It isn't jail time, threats, negative stimulus, its positive stimulus, its help, a safety net, security, a helping hand when you're down. Positive reinforcement is far more powerful than negative.

    This is what the exploiters want, us to stab each other in the back over fear of losing something. Fear that part of my paycheck is going to somebody else that doesn't deserve it, rather than the possibility that it benefits us all greater than our individual input would otherwise.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Pffft, "encourage mediocrity", you might think walking around with a whip beating people half to death makes them work harder, but it doesn't. This isn't the middle ages, we don't need such barbaric principles guiding us. Get into the sciences and talk to some psychologists, psychiatrists about what motivates people to be more efficient. It isn't jail time, threats, negative stimulus, its positive stimulus, its help, a safety net, security, a helping hand when you're down. Positive reinforcement is far more powerful than negative.

    This is what the exploiters want, us to stab each other in the back over fear of losing something. Fear that part of my paycheck is going to somebody else that doesn't deserve it, rather than the possibility that it benefits us all greater than our individual input would otherwise.
    Exactly what do you think the government is doing to the spirits of the individuals mired within their current dependency on government programs? No, it's not physical abuse, just mental, but you seem to be okay with that...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Exactly what do you think the government is doing to the spirits of the individuals mired within their current dependency on government programs? No, it's not physical abuse, just mental, but you seem to be okay with that...
    Is it the government that abuses them? Or is it Fox news, Republican talk radio, social media, websites, that all demonize and humiliate those receiving assistance? The constant belittling and labeling of "moochers", "losers", "takers", "lazy", what do you think that does to them? You might be surprised how many people don't want assistance and would rather have a good paying job in which they completely support themselves, all they need is a little help through a rough patch and things would be better.

    But instead we toil in a loop where the middle class has so little money to spend we can't kickstart the economy through demand. Inequality is not just unfair it breaks the economy for everyone but the top 20%.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    You support cutting government services right?
    That wasn't my question.

    Do you feel that the country can afford to spend a trillions dollars a year of money it doesn't have? That is over and above what the government is already spending. How long do you think this can continue?
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Is it the government that abuses them? Or is it Fox news, Republican talk radio, social media, websites, that all demonize and humiliate those receiving assistance? The constant belittling and labeling of "moochers", "losers", "takers", "lazy", what do you think that does to them? You might be surprised how many people don't want assistance and would rather have a good paying job in which they completely support themselves, all they need is a little help through a rough patch and things would be better.

    But instead we toil in a loop where the middle class has so little money to spend we can't kickstart the economy through demand. Inequality is not just unfair it breaks the economy for everyone but the top 20%.
    You continue to use quotes but never the source.

    And of course where there is more government there is less money for the people. The shrinking middle class and higher poverty should not come as a surprise.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Pffft, "encourage mediocrity", you might think walking around with a whip beating people half to death makes them work harder, but it doesn't. This isn't the middle ages, we don't need such barbaric principles guiding us. Get into the sciences and talk to some psychologists, psychiatrists about what motivates people to be more efficient. It isn't jail time, threats, negative stimulus, its positive stimulus, its help, a safety net, security, a helping hand when you're down. Positive reinforcement is far more powerful than negative.

    This is what the exploiters want, us to stab each other in the back over fear of losing something. Fear that part of my paycheck is going to somebody else that doesn't deserve it, rather than the possibility that it benefits us all greater than our individual input would otherwise.
    Who do you feel is doing all this stabbing?

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That wasn't my question.

    Do you feel that the country can afford to spend a trillions dollars a year of money it doesn't have? That is over and above what the government is already spending. How long do you think this can continue?
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    For right now we can, its not our biggest problem, not by a long shot. People seem to forget the glorious position we are in. We hold the world's reserve currency, we owe everyone money that we can PRINT. Its a pretty sweet deal but the ultra rich don't want to lose their wealth through inflation tax so they spread the rumors that the world will end if we devalue our currency a little bit over the years.

    Our real problems are jobs, inefficient healthcare and a stalled economy. The debt is just numbers, people without a job are actually suffering every day.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You continue to use quotes but never the source.

    And of course where there is more government there is less money for the people. The shrinking middle class and higher poverty should not come as a surprise.
    Who has all the money?

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Is it the government that abuses them? Or is it Fox news, Republican talk radio, social media, websites, that all demonize and humiliate those receiving assistance? The constant belittling and labeling of "moochers", "losers", "takers", "lazy", what do you think that does to them? You might be surprised how many people don't want assistance and would rather have a good paying job in which they completely support themselves, all they need is a little help through a rough patch and things would be better.

    But instead we toil in a loop where the middle class has so little money to spend we can't kickstart the economy through demand. Inequality is not just unfair it breaks the economy for everyone but the top 20%.
    Our government, as it currently exists, has no interest in creating a more independent society. If it did, it wouldn't take much to do so. Take energy independence as an example. If we were to commit to the idea, it would create a vast amount of middle class jobs. Another example to combine with that would be the encouragement of manufacturing in the country by reducing the tax and regulatory burden on those businesses, but when catering to special interests (wealthy progs) is the goal, it makes it difficult to enact those types of reform...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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