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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ask the millions of people who couldn't get health coverage how that whole "rolling with the punches" thing went for them.

    I've generally found that the frequency of the use of the word "left," "liberal" or "leftist" in someone's post almost directly correlates with how often they are completely wrong.
    The pot calling the kettle black, are ya? We can be as specific as you like with any issue. The bottom line is that public policy and solutions for the general welfare are underpinned by governing philosophy, and the impact of that policy is measured by that underpinning. That is why those labels can be meaningful.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    Non workers and workers that do not have sufficient income must also obtain insurance. The penalty (not a true tax), is different.
    Incorrect. The only enforcement mechanism is that tax penalty.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    I stand by my assessment of intellectual capacity being important for the understanding of any subject. Dr. Carson hasn't only had his nose in a medical journal, he has indeed applied himself to the study of political philosophy, which he clearly understands based on his articulation of the subject. Dismissing his explanations based on one's own political bias is telling. Secondly, The fact that you do not have the capacity to understand that "hoodwinked stooge of the left" isn't necessarily a statement applicable to all leftists. Some of you actually believe it, amazingly.
    He clearly doesn't if he's claiming the ACA is the worst thing since slavery.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I'm not sure why some are so drawn to wild eyed hyperbole. Seem to even trap decent folks. But a person has to guzzling the super strength koolaid aid to by the comparison.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Incorrect. The only enforcement mechanism is that tax penalty.
    If you don't apply you pay the penalty.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    I agree with you here, but this you have described is really the greater problem of leftist philosophy. People adjust. Market forces and individual self interest responds to policy in unforeseen ways and the market continues create inequities. And that continues, unless and until enough force is applied in order to completely squash market responses. This has historically been the habit of authoritarian governments, and leads to massive oppression. Here in the US we have avoided this through protecting free markets allowing and ebb and flow to policy which also allows us to roll with the punches so-to-speak. Now, however we are being boxed in by our first authoritarian directive from the left.
    We as a country has been moving toward authoritarian type central government for sometime now. The move so far has been done in the name of safety of the people, taking care of the people, etc. Back when I grew up, the 1950's, Washington D.C. might as well been on Mars for as the people didn't rely that much on government back then. Today government is in and affects everything we do.

    Back then it was the government's job of taking care of the nation, its security, its money, to make sure the welfare of the nation is maintain in good order. The job of taking care of the people was an individual responsibility, a family responsibility, a civic responsibility, then came local, city, county and state government. Somewhere in-between then and now, the central government has become solely responsible for the welfare of the people and at times it ignores the welfare of the nation to the extent now the nation is in dire straights.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Worse than The Ice Capades?

    I think not.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Incorrect. The only enforcement mechanism is that tax penalty.
    What if they can't afford the tax penalty?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    I love dr Ben Carson!

    he is one of the most funny political nut cases and mental retards out there on the political scene!

    He's not to be taken seriously, come on people, he has ZERO chance of even getting the nod for presidential candidate.

    He has proven time and time again his social and political views are bat**** insane and NOBODY honest, educated and respected takes him seriously.

    Politically he is a loon, a cartoon character.

    Unfortunately in today politics we have these people and its NOT limited to any one party, media uses them and their parties use them for their squeaky wheel.

    But at the end of the day they are just comic relief. Embrace what he actually is.
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    Re: Dr. Carson: Obamacare The Worst Thing That Has Happened Since Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    We as a country has been moving toward authoritarian type central government for sometime now. The move so far has been done in the name of safety of the people, taking care of the people, etc. Back when I grew up, the 1950's, Washington D.C. might as well been on Mars for as the people didn't rely that much on government back then. Today government is in and affects everything we do.

    Back then it was the government's job of taking care of the nation, its security, its money, to make sure the welfare of the nation is maintain in good order. The job of taking care of the people was an individual responsibility, a family responsibility, a civic responsibility, then came local, city, county and state government. Somewhere in-between then and now, the central government has become solely responsible for the welfare of the people and at times it ignores the welfare of the nation to the extent now the nation is in dire straights.
    Hitler, Stalin and Mao used that excuse, too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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