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    ND farmer finds oil spill while harvesting wheat

    ND farmer finds oil spill while harvesting wheat

    BISMARCK, N.D. (AP) A North Dakota farmer who discovered an oil spill the size of seven football fields while out harvesting wheat says that when he found it, crude was bubbling up out of the ground.
    Farmer Steve Jensen says he smelled the crude for days before the tires on his combines were coated in it. At the apparent break in the Tesoro Corp.'s underground pipeline, the oil was "spewing and bubbling 6 inches high," he said in a telephone interview Thursday.
    What Jensen had found on Sept. 29 turned out it was one of the largest spills recorded in the state. At 20,600 barrels it was four times the size of a pipeline rupture in late March that forced the evacuation of more than 20 homes in Arkansas.
    How many oil pipelines are running through America?

    Or under it?

    And people really wanted one to run from Canada to the Gulf Of Mexico?

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    Re: ND farmer finds oil spill while harvesting wheat

    The answer isn't to stop economic development, the answer seems to be some stricter safety laws. I know next to nothing about oil pipelines but shouldnt the loss of 20,600 barrels result in some kind of loss of pressure which would be detectable?

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    Re: ND farmer finds oil spill while harvesting wheat

    As I understand it, it is not a matter of if a pipeline will break but when. It is just like any other kind of plumbing. It will eventually break down, especially if it was not done right to begin with.

    I'm not concerned with running a pipeline. They should just be required to pay for damages as they come up. In fact, a percentage of the oil that is going through the pipeline should be designated specifically for paying for whatever damage is caused by the pipeline.
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    Re: ND farmer finds oil spill while harvesting wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    The answer isn't to stop economic development, the answer seems to be some stricter safety laws. I know next to nothing about oil pipelines but shouldnt the loss of 20,600 barrels result in some kind of loss of pressure which would be detectable?
    Kinda makes one wonder how many other leaks there are that have not been detected yet.

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    North Dakota is a beautiful state that has profited greatly from oil drilling. They now have higher crime rate and drug usage as a result. This is just one more fruit from that black gold they love so much.
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    Re: ND farmer finds oil spill while harvesting wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    As I understand it, it is not a matter of if a pipeline will break but when. It is just like any other kind of plumbing. It will eventually break down, especially if it was not done right to begin with.

    I'm not concerned with running a pipeline. They should just be required to pay for damages as they come up. In fact, a percentage of the oil that is going through the pipeline should be designated specifically for paying for whatever damage is caused by the pipeline.
    The pipeline company IS responsible financially for any harm done. It already exists.

    The problem is the age and maintenance of the pipelines.

    We need more pipelines so we can decommission older less technologically advanced pipelines. Right now, the moratorium on pipeline building is actually adding to the danger posed by the older pipelines.

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    Re: ND farmer finds oil spill while harvesting wheat

    Non-new flash: Big Oil Wins and Will Win Again, Citizens ****ed Over.










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    Re: ND farmer finds oil spill while harvesting wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    North Dakota is a beautiful state that has profited greatly from oil drilling. They now have higher crime rate and drug usage as a result. This is just one more fruit from that black gold they love so much.
    Hatuey, I have a question. And I do not mean this in a derogatory way.

    When I read you statement above, it seemed to be juxtaposed to the normal position of those that are Very Liberal as your "Lean" states you are. In your statement, it sounds like you're blaming higher profits and increased jobs on higher crime and drug use, where I normally hear that poverty and lack of jobs are the reason for crime and drug use.

    The question is: Am I wrong in my reading, or did I read it correctly?

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    Re: ND farmer finds oil spill while harvesting wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    The pipeline company IS responsible financially for any harm done. It already exists.

    The problem is the age and maintenance of the pipelines.

    We need more pipelines so we can decommission older less technologically advanced pipelines. Right now, the moratorium on pipeline building is actually adding to the danger posed by the older pipelines.
    If true, that would probably be a much better way for these companies to market the idea of building new pipelines.
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    Re: ND farmer finds oil spill while harvesting wheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Hatuey, I have a question. And I do not mean this in a derogatory way.

    When I read you statement above, it seemed to be juxtaposed to the normal position of those that are Very Liberal as your "Lean" states you are. In your statement, it sounds like you're blaming higher profits and increased jobs on higher crime and drug use, where I normally hear that poverty and lack of jobs are the reason for crime and drug use.

    The question is: Am I wrong in my reading, or did I read it correctly?
    High influxes of people to one region are as big a problem as lack of jobs in another. For example, in the 50s, New York's growing job market attracted millions of people. By the 70s it had also attracted drug dealing ventures. By the early 80s, drug dealers were being home grown. Today, drug dealing is still profitable in low income areas because new jobs have drastically been reduced. This is what is happening in North Dakota. I'd wager that in 30 years, and as long as the oil keeps flowing, it will become a big oil/drug state. When the oil stops flowing, it'll simply be a drug state.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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