It doesn't seem to matter, in respect to idiot conspiracy theories, whether the "apples" are victims or attackers.
If you can't or won't produce the "apples" and present them for public scrutiny then there is some segment of the population that's going to say, "No "apples"? Then it never happened".
Does that clear things up for you? Or do you need me to hold your hand and walk you through it using stick figures?